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Ultimate Subtleness: Ultimate Confidence Boost in Mixing?

Postby GraysonPeddie » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:48 pm

I know my subject of the thread sounded so superficial, but being a subscriber to mailing list from TheRecordingRevolution.com, I got a question for any of you out there.

Today, I have received an e-mail from Graham titled "The psychological hack of mix buss processing" and while reading his email, I came across this:



And yes, he made the text between "if you make ... and in 40 different ways" a whole link.

So, by Graham's logic, 1dB times 40 tracks (and in 40 different ways) = 40dB increase? Or even a 40dB decrease?

When I read his email, I feel I could come to a conclusion that Graham is a psycho when it comes to ultimate boost in confident. I would rather be more confident making 5dB moves or more as that would help me out, but just 1dB increase or decrease? Wouldn't an increase or decrease of .01dB give me a boost in confidence?

Gee, I'm getting way too hung up over this.

Oh, here's the website Graham is talking about: http://therecordingrevolution.com/2015/ ... rocessing/
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Re: Ultimate Subtleness: Ultimate Confidence Boost in Mixing

Postby sysrqer » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:53 pm

I was about to jump in with a wtf and then I went and read the article. What he's saying isn't that adding 1db of a frequency on the master results in 40db boost of that frequency, just that when you find yourself mixing for a long time it's hard to hear what small differences make so instead of adjusting the eq of 40 tracks to make the mix a little brighter, which could take goodness knows how long, you can add 1db of a boost on the stereo bus to achieve a similar result. At least that's how I read it. Now sure if I agree with it as a piece of advice though.

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Re: Ultimate Subtleness: Ultimate Confidence Boost in Mixing

Postby emarsk » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:35 am

GraysonPeddie wrote:So, by Graham's logic, 1dB times 40 tracks (and in 40 different ways) = 40dB increase? Or even a 40dB decrease?

No, your conclusion is completely wrong (go read about the math that's behind dBs).
What he's saying is that applying a change on a bus is the same as applying that change on every single track that feeds the bus. This is true for linear processing like EQ (it's not for non-linear processing like compressing). That is, a 1dB boost on the mix is like a 1dB boot on each track.
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Re: Ultimate Subtleness: Ultimate Confidence Boost in Mixing

Postby GraysonPeddie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:47 pm

Okay, thanks.
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Re: Ultimate Subtleness: Ultimate Confidence Boost in Mixing

Postby artek » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:51 pm

emarsk wrote:
GraysonPeddie wrote:So, by Graham's logic, 1dB times 40 tracks (and in 40 different ways) = 40dB increase? Or even a 40dB decrease?

No, your conclusion is completely wrong (go read about the math that's behind dBs).
What he's saying is that applying a change on a bus is the same as applying that change on every single track that feeds the bus. This is true for linear processing like EQ (it's not for non-linear processing like compressing). That is, a 1dB boost on the mix is like a 1dB boot on each track.

You got it wrong, equalization is not only sound boosting, for 40 tracks I compute that you should get max +16db boost of processing artifacts


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