hey everyone.
TC Electronic have released a line of pedals featuring "Toneprint" http://www.tcelectronic.com/toneprints.asp
basically, there's a setting on the pedals labelled "Toneprint" and there's a USB plug on the top of the pedal. the idea is that you download a completely customised sound and load it onto the pedal via said USB plug. here's the catch though: 1) they haven't bothered supporting Linux. 2) their customised sounds are only customisable by elite artists. they use software to customize their tones, as can be briefly seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kgw9ansIA
i've been reading on TC's user forums, and have found out that these pedals are USB class-compliant.
a little more digging also revealed that they may use Assembly code to configure the settings on the pedal itself from the files on TC's website. http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=908730
this leads me to believe that it's very possible for the free software community to develop Linux support for these devices, and (perhaps more significantly) an open-source editor for configuring and fine-tweaking the pedals.
from the videos of artists creating their tones on TC's youtube channel, the (currently restricted) customizability of these pedals is potentially immense.
TC Electronic Toneprint
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Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
They are probably great pedals, but arriving at a time when virtual gear in linux
is making steady progress, with more and more good hardware gathering dust each month.
Maybe linux musicians are scattered more widely in rural
and low-income places lacking shops selling such devices?
Bump the thread every few days with more info, or sound examples,
and interest will grow. It's friday night, most of the forum is still out clubbing
or sleeping it off!
is making steady progress, with more and more good hardware gathering dust each month.
Maybe linux musicians are scattered more widely in rural
and low-income places lacking shops selling such devices?
Bump the thread every few days with more info, or sound examples,
and interest will grow. It's friday night, most of the forum is still out clubbing
or sleeping it off!
Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
Interested.
I just kinda like TC Electronic in general. And hats off to them for putting a USB port on some of their pedals; if the PCB is a has a part which can be enumerated, it's cool to expose it their customers.
Who knows why there's no Linux port? Most likely they just haven't given the thumbs to that guy at the company who could and wants to do it since there's no benefit to the company other than the (potential) admiration of a small subset of the opensource community. Further, Toneprint-enabled pedals are probably similar enough to each other hardware-wise that anybody with the right secret sauce could do some damage to their profits.
I would argue that a Linux port, especially if they opensourced it, voluntarily or for legal reasons, would effectively encourage anyone even interested to start poking around... the secret sauce could be 0xFFFF for all I know.
Interestingly, though, pissing off Linux users by not providing a port is begging for hacking. Not modding. Hacking. There's gotta be some good IP up in there!
I just kinda like TC Electronic in general. And hats off to them for putting a USB port on some of their pedals; if the PCB is a has a part which can be enumerated, it's cool to expose it their customers.
Who knows why there's no Linux port? Most likely they just haven't given the thumbs to that guy at the company who could and wants to do it since there's no benefit to the company other than the (potential) admiration of a small subset of the opensource community. Further, Toneprint-enabled pedals are probably similar enough to each other hardware-wise that anybody with the right secret sauce could do some damage to their profits.
I would argue that a Linux port, especially if they opensourced it, voluntarily or for legal reasons, would effectively encourage anyone even interested to start poking around... the secret sauce could be 0xFFFF for all I know.
Interestingly, though, pissing off Linux users by not providing a port is begging for hacking. Not modding. Hacking. There's gotta be some good IP up in there!
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Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
Also interested! Especially since I just bought a SubNup It's set up fine for now, but it'd be great to be able to edit it. I have some assembly experience and am not too daunted by USB; anybody want to put heads together to crack this?
Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
I think MOD devices are actually more appealing than this:
http://moddevices.com/
Is there anything you think these TC devices are better suited than MOD for?
EDIT: Wow, I did not realize it was a thread from 2011...
http://moddevices.com/
Yeah, probably there is some way to do it, but I am totally clueless about it. I feel like MOD devices are going to give you a similar, much more flexible, platform with Linux support (actually Linux based) and truly configurable patches.heminder wrote: this leads me to believe that it's very possible for the free software community to develop Linux support for these devices, and (perhaps more significantly) an open-source editor for configuring and fine-tweaking the pedals.
Is there anything you think these TC devices are better suited than MOD for?
EDIT: Wow, I did not realize it was a thread from 2011...
Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
I have a SubnUp. I been using my ipad and the 'camera connection' dongle with the toneprint editor app to edit EQ, drive and mudulation. The result is way over what I expected !
TC have the tech, but are not using it. In fact it looks like they are abandoning it.
TC blew it. Mybe the Behringer takeover stopped it. Or whatever
Same with Zoom; I have a MS-70CDR. They say it is not possible to use the USB for.. ..well, not much.
But https://g200kg.github.io/zoom-ms-utility/ looks like a full blown patch editor.
I have not had any luck with it on Chrome on my Debian laptop. My back hurt just by thinking of doing all the editing bent over the pedalboard.
Now I want some synth overlay on my bass guitar. https://www.rebeltech.org/product/owl-pedal/ looks promising.
ok, done with the ranting
TC have the tech, but are not using it. In fact it looks like they are abandoning it.
TC blew it. Mybe the Behringer takeover stopped it. Or whatever
Same with Zoom; I have a MS-70CDR. They say it is not possible to use the USB for.. ..well, not much.
But https://g200kg.github.io/zoom-ms-utility/ looks like a full blown patch editor.
I have not had any luck with it on Chrome on my Debian laptop. My back hurt just by thinking of doing all the editing bent over the pedalboard.
Now I want some synth overlay on my bass guitar. https://www.rebeltech.org/product/owl-pedal/ looks promising.
ok, done with the ranting
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Re: TC Electronic Toneprint
I have been searching for a Linux alternative to the Toneprint editor and came across this thread - FWIW if someone else is looking - I have just stumbled across a recent post on the WINE compatibility reports site ( https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=40817 ) that says the tone print editor is working ok.
My own experience is that it launches fine both with WINE or via usebottles but at I am currently using ChromeOS Linux which still has some USB issues and at time of writing is not detecting my Flashback 2 pedal
My own experience is that it launches fine both with WINE or via usebottles but at I am currently using ChromeOS Linux which still has some USB issues and at time of writing is not detecting my Flashback 2 pedal