Alas, that’s true. I don’t know to what extent this is feasible in various cases, but, as the Archlinux Wiki recommends securing/isolating Skype by various means anyway, including using it with a special user, I think Pulse could be configured to only run within that user’s session, otherwise not interfering with one’s regular user session. Just a thought.Capoeira wrote:that's the real problem......no alternative if everybody is using skype
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Joermungand wrote:Alas, that’s true. I don’t know to what extent this is feasible in various cases, but, as the Archlinux Wiki recommends securing/isolating Skype by various means anyway, including using it with a special user, I think Pulse could be configured to only run within that user’s session, otherwise not interfering with one’s regular user session. Just a thought.Capoeira wrote:that's the real problem......no alternative if everybody is using skype
see what user stupidus did: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 7#p1428737
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Yes, something like that is what I had in mind, too.Capoeira wrote:see what user stupidus did: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 7#p1428737
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
Skype runs on an android phone. How would people feel about using it that way, rather than regarding as something they run on their PC?
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
so, I installed pulseaudio
I added as script after startup in qjackctl
actualy I like the fact that I don't need the loopback device anymore to use skype with jack
running fine
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pactl load-module module-jack-sink channels=2; pactl load-module module-jack-source channels=2;pacmd set-default-sink jack_out
actualy I like the fact that I don't need the loopback device anymore to use skype with jack
running fine
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
Oh for the days when Skype just did audio calls, simply and well. Never to be seen again.falkTX wrote:skype must be the most slow and/or bloated software ever made. I have a very cheap tablet and skype is too slow to be anywhere usable.Thad E Ginathom wrote:Skype runs on an android phone. How would people feel about using it that way, rather than regarding as something they run on their PC?
even while it's idling in the tray on the laptop, it still manages to use 5% cpu sometimes.
makes you wonder what the hell that thing it's doing...
Whilst I have used it on my very modest Motorola Defy+, the last time I did so ...it crashed in mid call. I mentioned it because I thought better/newer phones might do better.
Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
Ah, the Classic Linux audio user cuss-out of Pulseaudio.
I recall when the thing was first introduced, yeesh! It earned a bad rep amongst most regular Ubuntu users as-well as audio folks. Nowadays a bit better but, 'still a little ugly on its dumb side'.
Running it on something alongide jack? To get Skype, of all things? I wouldn't trust it not to grab an unused audio device and share a personal call via a full set of stage monitors.
I recall when the thing was first introduced, yeesh! It earned a bad rep amongst most regular Ubuntu users as-well as audio folks. Nowadays a bit better but, 'still a little ugly on its dumb side'.
Running it on something alongide jack? To get Skype, of all things? I wouldn't trust it not to grab an unused audio device and share a personal call via a full set of stage monitors.
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TVu wrote:Ah, the Classic Linux audio user cuss-out of Pulseaudio.
I recall when the thing was first introduced, yeesh! It earned a bad rep amongst most regular Ubuntu users as-well as audio folks. Nowadays a bit better but, 'still a little ugly on its dumb side'.
Running it on something alongide jack? To get Skype, of all things? I wouldn't trust it not to grab an unused audio device and share a personal call via a full set of stage monitors.
I don't understand it....I have 0 problems with it
Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
I don't understand what's all this fuss around Pulseaudio. Do you guys really need to run Skype with Jack? Really? I mean, Jack is used for pro-audio work, do you really do pro-audio work while Skype is running??
When I do audio work I run Jack. When I use Skype I run Pulseaudio. I never need them to run together. (I shouldn't have an active wifi while running Jack anyway.)
Pulseaudio is just a tiny bit of disk space wasted if it's not runnig, it's not some magical curse that will destroy your finely tuned distro just because it's installed. Just make sure that it's not started at boot time, put "autospawn = no" in its client.conf file and you're fine, you have full control over it. Run pulse, run Skype, close Skype, kill pulse. Problem solved.
Or am I missing something?
When I do audio work I run Jack. When I use Skype I run Pulseaudio. I never need them to run together. (I shouldn't have an active wifi while running Jack anyway.)
Pulseaudio is just a tiny bit of disk space wasted if it's not runnig, it's not some magical curse that will destroy your finely tuned distro just because it's installed. Just make sure that it's not started at boot time, put "autospawn = no" in its client.conf file and you're fine, you have full control over it. Run pulse, run Skype, close Skype, kill pulse. Problem solved.
Or am I missing something?
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
Beginners who want ro run jack all have the same problem: pulseaudio.
- They don't know that it blocks their soundcard.
- They don't know how to stop it.
- They don't know how to configure it to output via jack sink.
After that, pulseaudio is no problem anymore, even if client programs start it automagically.
- They don't know that it blocks their soundcard.
- They don't know how to stop it.
- They don't know how to configure it to output via jack sink.
After that, pulseaudio is no problem anymore, even if client programs start it automagically.
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
falkTX wrote:the "pulseaudio-module-jack" package that handles the pulse-jack thing is not installed per default on any Debian or Ubuntu distribution except for UbuntuStudio and KXStudio.Capoeira wrote:you guys must have missed that pulse doesn't block the soundcard anymore. when jack is started pulse frees it
so for those users, pulseaudio does block jack.
ok, I see.....on Arch it works out of the box (if you install it)
Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
Since there is already a thread about this f****** skype software, i wanted to ask if anybody is having issues with skype constantly changing the sampling rate, it drives me crazy! Anytime something happens in skype, even if i turn off all sound it changes the sampling rate of my system and some music that was playing in the backround is suddenly upscaled to micky mouse land. How do i block this piece of turd from playing around with the sampling rate?
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Re: skype cuts suport for alsa....and now?
I agree with the majority sentiment here. Skype (Microsoft) ditching ALSA is a bit piss poor. Also, not having a native 64 bit is, again the same. If it's really important to get/send a message use email or agree another VOIP with your closest contacts (easier said than done, but hey).
JACK with Cadence tools is the 'dog's danglies'. I'm glad the likes of falkTX et al have enabled JACK to become a defacto sound server for a complete desktop system. I will not compromise it with crap software unless my life absolutely dependended on it.
JACK for the win.
JACK with Cadence tools is the 'dog's danglies'. I'm glad the likes of falkTX et al have enabled JACK to become a defacto sound server for a complete desktop system. I will not compromise it with crap software unless my life absolutely dependended on it.
JACK for the win.