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Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:09 am
by i2productions
falkTX wrote:
i2productions wrote:I've tried them all(though not E17 since it got stable), and I gotta say Cinnamon and LXDE are the only ones for me.
You need to try KDE4 again very soon with the new KXStudio ISO!
It's coming!!!
falk, you know i give every one of your releases a spin the day it drops! I'm always looking for something better, but at the moment I've switched to Arch. I just hope the best parts of your work keep making it into the AUR! But I'm always looking for something better, so I'll give it a spin real soon! (I even updated my kxstudio install tutorial thread, in the How-To forum, indicating KDE users should wait for your upcoming release if they're looking for the best install option!)

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:22 am
by Capoeira
English Guy wrote: I just found enlightenment counter intuitive.
it's diferent from all the others. a new concept. It's like switching an OS, you gotta get used to it.
English Guy wrote: I just found enlightenment buggy
Well, it was beta. Can't find any bug anymore


DE is a personal thing....I never liked LXDE for example, it's simple, but "too simple" (in means od configuration) for me and has no look.
I like KDE4 but it's too heavy for me. I want a fast reacting DE

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:04 pm
by autostatic
Capoeira wrote:it's diferent from all the others. a new concept.
New concept? Enlightenment is older than Gnome and KDE!

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:16 pm
by Capoeira
AutoStatic wrote:
Capoeira wrote:it's diferent from all the others. a new concept.
New concept? Enlightenment is older than Gnome and KDE!
ok, let's call it "diferent"

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:47 pm
by English Guy
Capoeira wrote:
English Guy wrote: I just found enlightenment counter intuitive.
it's diferent from all the others. a new concept. It's like switching an OS, you gotta get used to it.
With respect, I used it for several _months_ & I still maintain that it is counter intuitive. I regard that time as time wasted & am sure many on this list would have given up far sooner than I did. People hop distro's in less time.

I had LXDE up, customised to my taste & running in less than an hour. This in a distro where it is not the main DE - & usually these are the 'poor relatives' & do not work so well.

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:52 pm
by Capoeira
I like it a lot :D

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:18 pm
by rncbc
AutoStatic wrote:
Capoeira wrote:it's diferent from all the others. a new concept.
New concept? Enlightenment is older than Gnome and KDE!
nope. none is older than kde. it predates E (as a DE) by one year at least. fact is rasterman started working on the elightment-libs earlier (mid-90s) but trolltech's qt was already kicking way, way before (early-90s).

byee

Re: E17 released

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:42 pm
by Torcaza
I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04 and want to give a try to E17; I readed all the comments in this post and didn't find the answer to my question: Can I still use the same programs and the low-latency kernel when I switch to E17? (without removing the XCFE that comes by default in Ubuntu Studio)

Re: E17 released

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 8:24 pm
by Torcaza
falkTX wrote:
Torcaza wrote:I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04 and want to give a try to E17; I readed all the comments in this post and didn't find the answer to my question: Can I still use the same programs and the low-latency kernel when I switch to E17? (without removing the XCFE that comes by default in Ubuntu Studio)
Of course! (unless it wants to remove related packages, but I highly doubt it).

The start-menu will most likely be different, maybe not even list the non-e17 apps (no idea about this...).

afaik when you install a new Desktop, you just select it in the login screen.
the desktop will probably bring its own apps, which will clutter the system a bit (ie, a wide range of apps that do the same, like text edit, calculator, etc).
but this is mostly HDD space
Ok, but if I don't want these new apps surely I can remove them, isn't it? I get in touch with Enlightenment with Elive, a few years back, and really love its beauty, so I'm happy they give us this new release; and it's a fact I don't like XCFE.

Re: E17 released

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:18 am
by Capoeira
Torcaza wrote:
falkTX wrote:
Torcaza wrote:I have Ubuntu Studio 12.04 and want to give a try to E17; I readed all the comments in this post and didn't find the answer to my question: Can I still use the same programs and the low-latency kernel when I switch to E17? (without removing the XCFE that comes by default in Ubuntu Studio)
Of course! (unless it wants to remove related packages, but I highly doubt it).

The start-menu will most likely be different, maybe not even list the non-e17 apps (no idea about this...).

afaik when you install a new Desktop, you just select it in the login screen.
the desktop will probably bring its own apps, which will clutter the system a bit (ie, a wide range of apps that do the same, like text edit, calculator, etc).
but this is mostly HDD space
Ok, but if I don't want these new apps surely I can remove them, isn't it? I get in touch with Enlightenment with Elive, a few years back, and really love its beauty, so I'm happy they give us this new release; and it's a fact I don't like XCFE.
first, your programs will appear in the menu

second, E17 is modular; any part of it can be choosen to not being loaded at startup

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:48 am
by English Guy
In the interest of fairness, Bodhi has just done a big update to Enlightenment & it does seem to be a big improvement. Still some issues with default icons. I may try & see how a clean install does when I next have time.

EDIT: Five minutes later - already had a crash that required a wm restart & problems with a process (eval_image_load) using up to 96% processor power. Back in to LXDE. Pity as I like the idea of Bodhi but I am still waiting for it to work.

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:17 am
by Capoeira
never crashed here since stable. must be the distro

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:31 am
by alex stone
I have the latest Bodhi 64bit installed here, and no crashes.

Alex.

Re: E17 released

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:57 am
by Capoeira

Re: E17 released

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:55 pm
by Capoeira
there is now an Arch/E17 live CD distro.
So any interest in trying Arch+E17, this might be good to download:

http://arche17.org/