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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:55 am

Thank you very much!
Recording that.
Is LSP and foobar2000 an own plugin format like LADSPA, DSSI, Vamp, LV2, VST, AU, AAX, RTAS?
I'll leave that out for now. If it is a format of its own, I will of course include it. This is about the different plugin formats. Meta level. :-)

EDIT: Maybe LSP and foobar2000 fits better into "Linux Plugins (LADSPA, DSSI, Vamp, LV2, VST)" >> https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=18663
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby CrocoDuck » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:13 pm

Maybe also the availability of "standard of industry" software? For example Pro Tools and the like.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:14 pm

I thought that was included in point eight.
By dividing it into software in general and "industry standard" software, it is easier to see at a glance what is going on where and how.
Then one would have to roughly define beforehand what all falls under "industry standard" software i.e. 2 - x programs.
I don't know what kind of software there is, so let's do it together.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby sadko4u » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:24 am

khz wrote:Is LSP and foobar2000 an own plugin format like LADSPA, DSSI, Vamp, LV2, VST, AU, AAX, RTAS?

LSP plugins internally have their own common interface which is simply adopted to JACK, LADSPA, LV2 and VST by a thin layer of wrappers.
Standalone (JACK) version has additional benifit: is very easy to debug and develop, there is no need of any LADSPA/LV2/VST host.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:35 am

So LSP is an own plugin format? I'll put it on the list. If I misunderstood, please correct me.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby CrocoDuck » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:27 am

khz wrote:I thought that was included in point eight.
By dividing it into software in general and "industry standard" software, it is easier to see at a glance what is going on where and how.
Then one would have to roughly define beforehand what all falls under "industry standard" software i.e. 2 - x programs.
I don't know what kind of software there is, so let's do it together.


I am not too sure about it. The only information about this that I have is a friend of mine, who has a recording studio, stating that he would not switch to Linux due to preferring to run Pro Tools which, by being a sort of "standard", enabled him to easily cooperate with other studios. This happened some 5-6 years ago, I don't know whether the landscape changed in the meanwhile.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:41 am

This is also the main argument here in Germany: Program xy does not run on Linux.
I don't know so many (~important) audio programs ( "standard of industry" software) of the other platforms so just collect/list what you can think of.
Pro Tools, Logic Audio, Cubase, Reaper, Ableton(?), Bitwig(?),...?
Then I can't think of any.
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby chaocrator » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:11 am

khz wrote:This is also the main argument here in Germany: Program xy does not run on Linux.

same for ukraine, russia and other ex-USSR countries.

khz wrote:Pro Tools, Logic Audio, Cubase, Reaper, Ableton(?), Bitwig(?),...?
Then I can't think of any.

Pro Tools, Cubase and Ableton are definitely considered industry standard.
Bitwig is still not, but i wish them to be in the same league ASAP, because actually Bitwig is even better than Ableton.

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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:24 am

Thank you, chaocrator.
What do the others think? Any other suggestions? Objections?
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby CrocoDuck » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:42 am

khz wrote:Thank you, chaocrator.
What do the others think? Any other suggestions? Objections?
Collect.


I have seen few recording studios using this: http://motu.com/products/software/dp. It might be more of a niche than a standard for all I know though. Anyone else knowing more about it?
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:17 pm

Here is a meticulous listing of the different DAWs from a nice forum member from another forum. https://www.sequencer.de/synthesizer/threads/die-bevorzugte-daw.124855/
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby fakebake » Sat Aug 04, 2018 10:10 am

Here are some more polls from some other "nice" forum members...

https://audiosex.pro/threads/which-daws ... oll.19570/

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-c ... -most.html

depending who you ask, you will get different answers, or ?
Audio and Midi files can allways be imported by any DAW software, so being compatible may not be so important.
Some companies like apple and steinberg, trying to push their products into markets by having cooperations with other hard and software companies and bundling demo versions with any other hard or software.

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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:12 pm

THX && :welcome: :-D

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10.) "Standard of industry" software - fortuitously snapshot: from all three websites/surveys (1, 2, 3) the first 2 DAW's selected.

# OK?
# <Further suggestions/sources are welcome.>
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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby fakebake » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:48 pm

khz

thanks. looks good.

and maybe it is worth mentioning, that with reaper native linux, bitwig native linux, mackie tracktion for linux and harrison mix bus the modern linux musician has some nice DAW host software to chose between.

Also, a quite serious guy told me he knew one of the first ableton live developpers and that ableton live was first developped for linux.

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Re: Differences between the individual operating systems

Postby khz » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:33 pm

OM fakebake

Which DAW's run under Linux can be seen on different homepages.
If someone is seriously interested in Linux and music he will hopefully consider this for himself. Thinking. ;-)
I find it very interesting what the professional musician uses for official software.
I myself am not a musician and therefore I don't know anything about it.

I would be more interested in further surveys to refine the result more neutrally.
If you know any more polls, please post them.
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