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Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:54 pm
by Lyberta
tux99 wrote:In other words this would be the centralised censorship in the hands of a couple of private companies that I alluded to in my previous post.


And after that all computer hardware will have to be certified by government and have spyware that watches every action and development of non-certified software will be a crime.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:36 pm
by CrocoDuck
tux99 wrote:This is incorrect. The filtering has to happen before the content is published, so only if all posts are first checked by a moderator before being published then a forum would comply with art. 13.


Yep, i would say that's right:

Information society service providers that store and provide to the public access to large amounts of works or other subject-matter uploaded by their users shall, in cooperation with rightholders, take measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders for the use of their works or other subject-matter or to prevent the availability on their services of works or other subject-matter identified by rightholders through the cooperation with the service providers. Those measures, such as the use of effective content recognition technologies, shall be appropriate and proportionate. The service providers shall provide rightholders with adequate information on the functioning and the deployment of the measures, as well as, when relevant, adequate reporting on the recognition and use of the works and other subject-matter.


From the actual text: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content ... 2016PC0593

Thank you for correcting that.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:56 pm
by tux99
So the European parliament yesterday voted with a majority against this law, but apparently that only means that in September they will slightly modify it and then put it up for vote again... The lobbyists clearly never give up :evil:
Democracy has become a farce.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:21 am
by khz
How will this impact you
Article 13 is a provision in the proposed EU Copyright Directive mandating that all content uploaded to the internet be monitored and potentially deleted if a likeness to existing copyrighted content is detected. This provision will be voted on by the end of 2018.
Find out more from C4C, Copybuzzand Save the Link.

Whether a creator or a consumer, everyone who uses the internet will be affected by this law — which is why we all need to speak out against it.

If you are a creator or independent business, the content that you upload to share with your audience might be deleted without your consent. Creators include but are not limited to artists –such as cartoonists, gamers, illustrators, photographers, documentary filmmakers, animators, musicians, DJs, and dancers,– bloggers, journalists, and technologists.

Online platforms will be required to implement complex and expensive filtering systems and will be held liable for copyright infringement, potentially incurring fines that threaten their economic viability.

Article 13 would restrict the ability of Internet users to consume content – meaning they won’t be able to find and enjoy diverse kinds of cultural expressions that they have grown accustomed to. The days of communicating through gifs and memes, listening to our favourite remixes online or sharing videos of our friends singing at karaoke might be coming to an end.

Ultimately, the internet culture that has emerged in recent years – a culture that enables connections and democratises information – will become bureaucratic and restrictive.

>> https://www.saveyourinternet.eu/

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Change requests >> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/plenary/de/report-details.html?reference=A8-0245-2018

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German article: https://www.deepl.com/translate
A) Statement von Mozilla vor der entscheidenden Abstimmung zur EU Urheberrechtsreform >> https://blog.mozilla.org/press-de/2018/09/10/statement-von-mozilla-vor-der-entscheidenden-abstimmung-zur-eu-urheberrechtsreform/
2) Wikipedia protestiert gegen Urheberrechtsreform >> https://www.golem.de/news/leistungsschutzrecht-uploadfilter-wikipedia-protestiert-gegen-urheberrechtsreform-1809-136508.html
C) Openstreetmap schwärzt Karten aus Protest >> https://www.golem.de/news/uploadfilter-openstreetmap-schwaerzt-karten-aus-protest-1809-136470.html

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:05 pm
by CrocoDuck
The reform was approved today with minor changes with respect the original text, which I still have to fully inspect. It seems like there are more and clearer exceptions, but overall I think the attack surface through false legal claims on Open Source projects has overall widened. It will be hard to understand the impact of this, given that most of the implementation is left to single member states to handle.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:39 pm
by khz

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:29 pm
by Jack Winter
Note that the EU parliament has to pass it into law at a later date, this was just one signpost on the way.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:13 am
by CrocoDuck
Jack Winter wrote:Note that the EU parliament has to pass it into law at a later date, this was just one signpost on the way.


Yes, however the text that will be discussed later on has both Article 11 and 13 inside. I would have preferred to not have them at all at this point. The risk of having them in the final law is much higher now. To my understanding it is either the articles are rejected by negotiations with the member states or the whole reform gets rejected at the final vote. I think the member states are overall favorable to 11 and 13, while just 2 articles in a whole otherwise OKish reform might not be enough to force a rejection.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:32 am
by khz
P8_TA-PROV(2018)0337
Copyright in the Digital Single Market ***I
Amendments adopted by the European Parliament on 12 September 2018 on the proposal for a directive of the European Parliament and of the Council on copyright in the Digital Single Market ...

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+TA+P8-TA-2018-0337+0+DOC+PDF+V0//EN

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:31 am
by khz
After years of controversy over the new EU Copyright Directive, everything should suddenly go mega-fast in the last few metres. In view of increasing public protests against Article 13 and the associated upload filters, conservatives in the EU Parliament are now pushing the pace. The chairman of the EPP parliamentary group, Manfred Weber (CSU), wants to request on Thursday in the round of parliamentary group leaders to bring forward the decisive final vote to next week.

Source: (German) https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Proteste-gegen-Upload-Filter-CDU-will-Abstimmung-ueber-EU-Copyright-vorziehen-4325821.html

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:50 am
by CrocoDuck
From what I understood by reading a few things in the last days, the reform they are currently pushing for approval is even worse that what it originally was. Forums, like this one, are gonna be impacted. I will try to find the references I was reading and post them here.

The rise of populism and the like makes hard to say this nowadays, but I am always been a proud European. And this time the EU is really letting me down. I am disappointed beyond any reasonable limit by this whole Article 13 madness.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:24 pm
by raboof
CrocoDuck wrote:the EU is really letting me down. I am disappointed beyond any reasonable limit by this whole Article 13 madness.

I agree wholeheartedly.

While intended to protect content creators, both article 11 and article 13 will make it almost impossible for smaller platforms to exist online - inevitably leading to the few "big players" (google, facebook, etc) further cementing their monopoly - and their position of power over the very content creators we wanted to protect against them...

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:53 pm
by Lyberta
Thankfully, we have Tor. I hope one day everything will work only via Tor.

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:21 pm
by khz
Axel Voss wrote:"They [YouTube] have created a business model with the property of other people – on copyright protected works. If the intention of the platform is to give people access to copyright protected works then we have to think about whether this kind of business should exist. The new legislation is improving the situation for the European creators industry."

Source: Memes could be filtered out by EU copyright law https://www.dw.com/en/memes-could-be-filtered-out-by-eu-copyright-law/a-47858247?fbclid=IwAR1hWp8M_19e5kisyKJs1TS-sH_cvGRuf5XBLrzd6j5sJpiIQ600CELVDN4

Lyberta wrote:Thankfully, we have Tor. I hope one day everything will work only via Tor.

In Germany and possibly throughout the EU, services such as Tor may no longer be legal for long?
Source: Tor Hidden Services & Co: Bundesrat will härter gegen illegale Dienste vorgehen https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Tor-Hidden-Services-Co-Bundesrat-will-haerter-gegen-illegale-Dienste-vorgehen-4334017.html
"Whoever encrypts has something to hide." ;-)

Re: Open Source, Communities, and the Incoming New EU Copyrights Regulations

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:07 pm
by Lyberta
Thankfully, we have terrorism, as long as we all join a terrorist organization, we will be free from government's oppression.