audiofire12 retry unsuccesful because of chipset(it seems)

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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oNNogitaar wrote:
AutoStatic wrote:
oNNogitaar wrote:JACK COMMAND: /usr/bin/jackd -p 128 -R -P 60 -T -d freebob -n 2 -r 48000 -p 1024
Try the firewire driver and a periods setting of 3.
Hi Jeremy, thank you!
I did select the ffado driver i dunno why it says freebob here.
I had it working under "normal"Ubuntu 11 (ran as root and with over 60ms of latency) but when i upgraded to 12.04lts it seized working. The try on Studio was my last bet i guess, i have a feeling my hardware is not working okay or so. On my old Vaio it used to work if i remember correctly...
I see my first post on this topic is from November 2010 :shock: i dunno how long i find the energy to keep trying...
Any luck so far?

Apart from Ubuntu Studio.. I've used BodhiLinux (just a normal distro, with very few things added on it) and it works just fine. Generally speaking, if you install QJackCtl, I think it should all be set up just fine, unless you have some super-new hardware that the linux kernel doesn't have drivers included in yet.

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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briandc wrote:Any luck so far?
Hi Brian,
...no, sorry. I have not found the motivation yet.
I might try again with "normal"Ubuntu in which i already set up QJackCtl and Ardour2 which used to run (kind of) on Ubuntu11 when i ran it as Root and with huge latency...
Since i upgraded to 12.04 it will not go at all.
My hardware is a 6yr. old Dell laptop and an Audiofire12 by Echo.

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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Hi, i found this here:
6 What FireWire card do you recommend for my AudioFire?

We recommend more recently manufactured FireWire cards with a Texas Instruments chipset. If you are encountering problems with the built-in FireWire in your desktop or laptop, we suggest that you try a PCMCIA or ExpressCard FireWire card and disable the built-in FireWire.

The following FireWIre chipsets have produced good results:

Texas Instruments: TSB12LV26
Texas Instruments: TSB43AB23
Texas Instruments: PTSB41LV03 (This is an older chipset and does not work well at 192K with our AudioFire 12.)
Agere: FW323-06
Agere: FW323:05

We have had mixed results with the following FIreWire chipsets. Newer cards with these chipsets have produced better results:

Via: VT6306
Via: VT63061

We do not recommend:

Ricoh chipsets
would you say that might have to do with the probs i am facing?
I have a Dell Latitude D630 (laptop)...

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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You are trying so hard! And now it could be that you found the problem at last, hopefully...

Your firewire card is (see faddo-diag):

03:01.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) [1217:00f7] (rev 02) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])

Check also:

http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/251
And google "O2 Micro firewire audio"

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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Pablo wrote:(see faddo-diag):

03:01.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) [1217:00f7] (rev 02) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])

Check also:

http://www.ffado.org/?q=node/251
And google "O2 Micro firewire audio"
Hi Pablo, thank you for the kind reply!
O2 Micro firewire seems to be the worst choice :? and it seems a Mac (which i concidered) is no way to go either since they no longer come with a TI chipset but with an Agere one.

I indeed found:
03:01.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) [1217:00f7] (rev 02) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01f9]
at "Host controllers"
I marked it red...

this is the outcome of ffado-diag

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FFADO diagnostic utility 2.1.0-
============================
(C) 2008 Pieter Palmers
    2009-2010 Arnold Krille


=== CHECK ===
 Base system...
  kernel version............ 3.2.0-35-generic-pae
    Preempt (low latency)... False
    RT patched.............. False
  old 1394 stack present.... False
  old 1394 stack loaded..... False
  old 1394 stack active..... False
  new 1394 stack present.... True
  new 1394 stack loaded..... True
  new 1394 stack active..... True
  /dev/raw1394 node present. False
  /dev/fw* permissions:
crw------- 1 root root 251, 0 Jan 21 10:01 /dev/fw0
  User IDs:
uid=1000(onno) gid=1000(onno) groups=1000(onno),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),110(netdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare)
 Prerequisites (dynamic at run-time)...
   gcc ............... gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3
   g++ ............... g++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3
   PyQt4 (by pyuic4) . sh: 1: pyuic4: not found
   jackd ............. no message buffer overruns
     path ............ /usr/bin/jackd
     flags ........... Package jack was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `jack.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'jack' found
   libraw1394 ........ Package libraw1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libraw1394.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libraw1394' found
     flags ........... Package libraw1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libraw1394.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libraw1394' found
   libavc1394 ........ Package libavc1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libavc1394.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libavc1394' found
     flags ........... Package libavc1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libavc1394.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libavc1394' found
   libiec61883 ....... Package libiec61883 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libiec61883.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libiec61883' found
     flags ........... Package libiec61883 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libiec61883.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libiec61883' found
   libxml++-2.6 ...... Package libxml++-2.6 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libxml++-2.6.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libxml++-2.6' found
     flags ........... Package libxml++-2.6 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libxml++-2.6.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'libxml++-2.6' found
   dbus-1 ............ Package dbus-1 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dbus-1.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'dbus-1' found
     flags ........... Package dbus-1 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `dbus-1.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'dbus-1' found
 Prerequisites (static at compile-time)...
   gcc ............... gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3
   g++ ............... g++ (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) 4.6.3
   PyQt4 (by pyuic4) . Python User Interface Compiler 4.9.1 for Qt version 4.8.1
   jackd ............. sh: 1: jackd: not found
     path ............ 
     flags ........... Package jack was not found in the pkg-config search path.
   libraw1394 ........ 2.0.7
     flags ...........  -lraw1394  
   libavc1394 ........ Package libavc1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
     flags ........... Package libavc1394 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
   libiec61883 ....... 1.2.0
     flags ...........  -liec61883 -lraw1394  
   libxml++-2.6 ...... 2.34.1
     flags ........... -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml++-2.6 -I/usr/lib/libxml++-2.6/include  -lxml++-2.6 -lxml2 -lglibmm-2.4 -lgobject-2.0 -lsigc-2.0 -lglib-2.0  
   dbus-1 ............ 1.4.18
     flags ........... -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dbus-1.0/include  -ldbus-1 -lpthread -lrt  
 uname -a...
   Linux Caecilia 3.2.0-35-generic-pae #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 18:04:39 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 Hardware...
   [b][color=#FF0000]Host controllers:
03:01.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) [1217:00f7] (rev 02) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:01f9]
[/color][/b]	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx+
	Latency: 64, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 19
	Region 0: Memory at f1dff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Region 1: Memory at f1dfe800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci
	Kernel modules: firewire-ohci

   CPU info:
Architecture:          i686
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                2
On-line CPU(s) list:   0,1
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    2
Socket(s):             1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            6
Model:                 15
Stepping:              10
CPU MHz:               2401.000
BogoMIPS:              4787.95
Virtualization:        VT-x
L1d cache:             32K
L1i cache:             32K
L2 cache:              4096K
 Configuration...
  IRQ information
Hardware Interrupts:
--------------------
 IRQ    0: PID:  None, count:   [705665, 854976], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['timer']
 IRQ    1: PID:  None, count:       [1609, 1601], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['i8042']
 IRQ    8: PID:  None, count:             [0, 1], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['rtc0']
 IRQ    9: PID:  None, count:             [0, 1], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['acpi']
 IRQ   12: PID:  None, count:      [85537, 3932], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['i8042']
 IRQ   14: PID:  None, count:       [3905, 2084], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['ata_piix']
 IRQ   15: PID:  None, count:             [0, 0], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['ata_piix']
 IRQ   16: PID:  None, count:       [2630, 3001], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['nouveau']
 IRQ   18: PID:  None, count:      [69674, 7713], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['ata_piix']
 IRQ   19: PID:  None, count:           [47, 57], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['firewire_ohci', 'yenta']
 IRQ   20: PID:  None, count:       [6648, 1577], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['ehci_hcd:usb2', 'uhci_hcd:usb3', 'uhci_hcd:usb5']
 IRQ   21: PID:  None, count:             [0, 0], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['uhci_hcd:usb4', 'uhci_hcd:usb6']
 IRQ   22: PID:  None, count:           [41, 35], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['ehci_hcd:usb1', 'uhci_hcd:usb7']
 IRQ   44: PID:  None, count:         [172, 177], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['snd_hda_intel']
 IRQ   45: PID:  None, count:     [361713, 3014], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['iwl3945']
 IRQ   46: PID:  None, count:             [1, 1], Sched None (priority None), drivers: ['eth0']

Software Interrupts:
--------------------


=== REPORT ===
FireWire kernel drivers:

The new FireWire kernel stack is loaded. 
If running a kernel earlier than 2.6.37 and problems are experienced, either 
try with the old Firewire kernel stack or upgrade to a newer kernel 
(preferrably 2.6.37 or later).
...so :shock: what next?? I wasted my time on faulty hardware :oops:

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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I heard that the agere firewire is slightly better than the T1 as of late. I read that somewhere but I do not know where. Otherwise you can buy a firewire card if you have an express card slot.There are some with T1 chipsets and agere chipsets that may work well.

I am using Bodhi 2.1 which is 12.04, I believe and installed much of KXstudio. I have a realtime kernel that I installed from kxstudio which is 3.2.0-23-realtime-pae and it works great with my Bodhi 2.1. I use it with my behringer firewire f-control audio interface which connects to the Behringer xenyx x1622 usb mixer using line in and out not the usb. I love it and have no problems.


Good luck.

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Re: audiofire12 retry

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hi thanks, i dunno how wise it is to invest in this 6yr old laptop.
I guess i am better off with a new one...
but i have no clue which one so i must do some searching and will open a new topic soon

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Re: audiofire12 retry unsuccesful because of chipset(it seem

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I do not blame you for not wanting to invest in an older laptop. I purchased my lenova thinkpad w520 a few months ago after my 10+ year old toshiba laptop died. It is not the latest but it was the previous year's model I believe. I searched a long time for a laptop with firewire, express slot, and power. I got this model from http://www.kingoflaptops.com. I was very happy with the customer service from the site and I love this laptop. It is dualboot with win7 and dreamstudio. I put an extra 750 gig hard drive in it to hold my dreamstudio. I only use the dreamstudio side of it.

I have not used the onboard firewire yet but will try it soon and let you know. If that is not satisfactory, I will purchase a firewire express card.

I probably would not give up on the audiofire 12 . It seems like a nice device.

Hope it all works out soon.

Sincerely,

aicram

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Re: audiofire12 retry unsuccesful because of chipset(it seem

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Hi Aicram,
thanks for your input!
Your thinkpad does look like some serious piece. Please share your experience with the onboard firewire.
I preferably do not give up on the audiofire 12 it is a nice and simple device.
I opened a new topic here on the continuation.
Cheers

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