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I don't really understand this part:
to gather information about descriptors people use when producing music. Now we just need to get as many people using them as we can so we can get a load of juicy data to analyse.
After reading the website I'm not really much clearer. So the plugins contact their servers to get preset information?
They have really nice guis at least.
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Ok, cool sounds like an interesting idea. Have you had a change to look at the code, everything looks ok? It sounds like a great idea but it the idea of them sending who knows what information to them makes me slightly nervous (unless it is something that you submit to send it).

Just looking over the documentation and it does indeed look to be something you click to submit to them.

Thanks for posting this, nice idea and certainly will be interesting to see how it develops.
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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Hey I'm the guy who posted this to the JUCE forums.

Nice to see people taking an interest in our plug-ins. I promise there is nothing sinister going on with them.

The info that gets sent to the server is:
* Whatever you type in the boxes.
* Audio feature data (Spectral Centroid, Bark Coefficients and other such things)
* Plug-in configuration data (parameter settings, number of channels and such)

If you want to quickly see exactly what is getting sent, change a plug-in to save locally. It should save an XML file to ~/Documents/SAFEPluginData or somewhere similar. That is exactly the same data that gets sent to the server.

Maybe I'll add something to this effect into the documentation to clear things up.
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Thank you Flying_Pigeon, that's good to know and the clarification is very much appreciated. Really looking forward to trying these plugins out, thank you for allowing them to be used by us linux users!

falkTX I downloaded your binaries and put them in my ~/.vst and ~/.lv2 folders but they are not showing in renoise or carla, despite scanning and making sure they are reading files from those folders. Tracktion saw them during a scan but got stuck on them and I had to kill it (not entirely unusual).

I guess I can try building them myself but your binaries almost always work for everything else.
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falkTX wrote: Are you sure they match your system architecture?
32bit is ..._i386.deb and 64bit is ..._amd64.deb
Yeah I did, I just tried again just to check I didn't click the wrong link last night but the same thing. What do they appear as in carla?
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Thanks for pointing to this plugins and compiling. And of course thank you Flying_Pigeon for making them.
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I'm not sure what's going on then. I'll try to make them myself and see if that makes any difference.
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sysrqer, it could be that you do not have the necessary libraries installed.

The one which springs to mind first is libcurl.

Try running ldd on the .so files to see if all the dependancies are present on your system.
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Flying_Pigeon it looks like you're correct:

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ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `.vst/SAFECompressor.so'
.vst/SAFECompressor.so: /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by .vst/SAFECompressor.so)
I installed libcurl-gnutls 7.32.0, is that not the right package?
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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Try the libcurl3 package.
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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Just tried to load the safereverb plugin, crashes ardour.

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LibXtract compiled with ooura FFT
Illegal instruction
bazsound@bazsound-MS-7309:~$ 
this is what happens when its loaded onto a mono bus. Problems with FFT again.
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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falkTX wrote:"Illegal instruction" usually happens when an app tries to use CPU instructions that it doesn't support (like SSE4 on an old system).
-march=native in gcc, built in one high system then passed to a lower one is usually the problem.
these plugins had that, so I'll push an update without it, thanks for the report!
My system in an AMD 64 X2 ( on an am2 socket)
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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Hi there!

I was immediately attracted by the idea of semanticaudio. I'm using the plugins (latest version) in Renoise on KXstudio, everything is working fine except the loading plug-in settings. They work when I put a keyword myself, but I can't open the window with available descriptors. I've checked in Carla too, same results.

This is my first post,
hello to all users.
using KXStudio 14.04 64bit
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I am very impressed with the Semantic Compressor. Very very transparent.
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Re: Semantic Audio Plug-Ins

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Żożo wrote:Hi there!

I was immediately attracted by the idea of semanticaudio. I'm using the plugins (latest version) in Renoise on KXstudio, everything is working fine except the loading plug-in settings. They work when I put a keyword myself, but I can't open the window with available descriptors. I've checked in Carla too, same results.

This is my first post,
hello to all users.
They are possibly not the latest versions then. There are some VST binaries available on our website:
http://www.semanticaudio.co.uk/downloads/
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