I would say that the giants of computer music should be people who did music using a computer, not early synthesizers. Those guys were the giants of synthesizer music.
To me the giants of computer music is the tracking scene of the 1980s - 1990s. People who had lousy 8 bit mono samples with which they did wonders.
A good collection of such stuff is here, on my site:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projec ... &t=modlist
Note that this is also "open source". You can open it in a tracker and see how it is done. This is real computer music.
who are the giants....?
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Re: who are the giants....?
I can't believe this thread is on its 2nd page and no-one has mentioned Kraftwerk or are they just TOO obvious?
The other (too obvious?) greats missing from here for me are The Nice / ELP (Bob Moog created a whole bunch of stuff especially for Keith), FAUST, The White Noise (featuring Delia Derbyshire of Dr Who theme fame) and for 'computer music' no-one has ever touched Rob Hubbard - the undisputed king of chip tune music for all time. Matt Grey, David Whittaker and Martin Galway also composed some of the best (C64) chip music ever - these guys have been a huge inspiration to all that were lucky enough to hear their work. The C64 was the first home computer capable of creating decent synthesized sound and hence it is still widely used by electronic musicians today.
Yuzo Koshiro's Revenge of Shinobi and Streets of Rage games bowled everyone over in their day too - hence my recent remake. With the advent of the SEGA Mega CD / 3DO and later computers / consoles with CDROM drives video game music was never the same as people could then just use CD audio and you no longer had to be a great programmer as well as musician to create cool video game music.
The other (too obvious?) greats missing from here for me are The Nice / ELP (Bob Moog created a whole bunch of stuff especially for Keith), FAUST, The White Noise (featuring Delia Derbyshire of Dr Who theme fame) and for 'computer music' no-one has ever touched Rob Hubbard - the undisputed king of chip tune music for all time. Matt Grey, David Whittaker and Martin Galway also composed some of the best (C64) chip music ever - these guys have been a huge inspiration to all that were lucky enough to hear their work. The C64 was the first home computer capable of creating decent synthesized sound and hence it is still widely used by electronic musicians today.
Yuzo Koshiro's Revenge of Shinobi and Streets of Rage games bowled everyone over in their day too - hence my recent remake. With the advent of the SEGA Mega CD / 3DO and later computers / consoles with CDROM drives video game music was never the same as people could then just use CD audio and you no longer had to be a great programmer as well as musician to create cool video game music.
Re: who are the giants....?
is this a joke or sumthin???Scary Hallo wrote:Stockhausen
helikopter-quartett / arditti string quartet
you can have a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D1YY_BvWU
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Re: who are the giants....?
Kraftwerk
Vince Clarke
must be on the list too.
Vince Clarke
must be on the list too.
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Re: who are the giants....?
A couple favourites
Ake Parmerud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLJbLw5aLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rieh7PS2G8
Hans Tutschku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHYUxE3-f4Q
http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/imed_9947/ Punch the playback widget just below the banner -- you get to hear short excerpts.
Some of the pioneers
Morton Subotnick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp-7B4VT9A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKnxk_C-BPo This is live. It takes him a few minutes to settle in. A pioneer, but still playing live.
Francis Dhomont
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rHMMkk9Jbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvm86jVUBhM
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Already mentioned, but must be here, of course. Instead of "Helicopter Quartet..." I have a pure EA piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vjofqA2SNY "Kontakte" is considered the second of his two early electronic masterpieces (1959... like, wanna chop up some some acetate tape, comrades?)
Milton Babbitt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpbrXlnZMRg
Bernard Parmegiani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0mlNgT82Xg
Mario Davidovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suf7SQ84-RM
empreintes DIGITALes
http://www.electrocd.com/en/boutique/em ... digitales/
IMO the greatest label in the field of electroacoustics. There's a shitload of EM/EA/EAI stuff to hear on that site.
Outside of the EA/EAI field:
Autechre
...of course. I think they were already mentioned, but they're worth another mention.
S c i n t i l l a
http://soundcloud.com/we-pause/clapdish ... op-excerpt
It's me in duo with saxophone player. I'm barely competent and out of place in the above company, but this is to show what I'd like to hear more of: EAI played with the phrasing capability of trad instruments (I'm only 10% there, still trying)
PS:
My first post to LM.
Great thread!
Ake Parmerud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMLJbLw5aLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rieh7PS2G8
Hans Tutschku
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHYUxE3-f4Q
http://www.electrocd.com/en/cat/imed_9947/ Punch the playback widget just below the banner -- you get to hear short excerpts.
Some of the pioneers
Morton Subotnick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp-7B4VT9A4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKnxk_C-BPo This is live. It takes him a few minutes to settle in. A pioneer, but still playing live.
Francis Dhomont
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rHMMkk9Jbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvm86jVUBhM
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Already mentioned, but must be here, of course. Instead of "Helicopter Quartet..." I have a pure EA piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vjofqA2SNY "Kontakte" is considered the second of his two early electronic masterpieces (1959... like, wanna chop up some some acetate tape, comrades?)
Milton Babbitt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpbrXlnZMRg
Bernard Parmegiani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0mlNgT82Xg
Mario Davidovsky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suf7SQ84-RM
empreintes DIGITALes
http://www.electrocd.com/en/boutique/em ... digitales/
IMO the greatest label in the field of electroacoustics. There's a shitload of EM/EA/EAI stuff to hear on that site.
Outside of the EA/EAI field:
Autechre
...of course. I think they were already mentioned, but they're worth another mention.
S c i n t i l l a
http://soundcloud.com/we-pause/clapdish ... op-excerpt
It's me in duo with saxophone player. I'm barely competent and out of place in the above company, but this is to show what I'd like to hear more of: EAI played with the phrasing capability of trad instruments (I'm only 10% there, still trying)
PS:
My first post to LM.
Great thread!
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Re: who are the giants....?
Yep, that's the list I thought I'd see from you.AvantGuy wrote:A couple favourites...
Great choices. Have you checked out Kaija Saariaho's stuff yet ?
Just wanted to say Howdy !
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Re: who are the giants....?
Saariaho - you betcha. Long a fan of her stuff. Good to bump you here, Dave. Figured I'd see you here sooner or later :--) Enjoyed your Arcis (version with piano also!)StudioDave wrote:
Yep, that's the list I thought I'd see from you.
Great choices. Have you checked out Kaija Saariaho's stuff yet ? ...