Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby 42low » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:28 am

Perhaps that's why i try to evolven my own style with real instruments to create the songs i want to make.

My goal is to create one song that get's airplay. Not to get famous or rich but for my fun.
And if reach my goal i kind off prove what you say. That each fool can create nice music that with some some luck becomes a hit. :wink: :twisted:

And now i perhaps reach it quicker now i know i have to do it in my underware. :mrgreen:

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby Michael Willis » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:22 am

42low wrote:And now i perhaps reach it quicker now i know i have to do it in my underware. :mrgreen:


Only if your underwear is a full body penguin skinsuit.

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby asbak » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:26 am

42low wrote:And now i perhaps reach it quicker now i know i have to do it in my underware. :mrgreen:


That trick only works if you are female and attractive.
In case you fail those requirements, the next best industry bet is to become a "studio gangsta". Like this guy.

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby 42low » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:39 am

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Hahaha. Great! :D

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby asbak » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:42 am

42low wrote:And if reach my goal i kind off prove what you say. That each fool can create nice music that with some some luck becomes a hit.


There are many jokers who have had hit records. The records became hits because of marketing of course but also because the people making it tapped into some kind of funny, amusing or original undercurrent. That's great and why not, have a go and have a good time doing it.

But what you're describing is different to "entertainers" who claim to be "musicians" who base their entire careers on creating anti-music, and who are fed by a media industry which claims to be representing "music" yet are representing something very unmusical. They should all just rather re-brand themselves as "entertainers" instead of claiming to be something which they aren't.

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby 42low » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:46 pm

I totaly understand what you mean, and you do have a point.
But still i too enjoy some of the music of those "entertainers". Some are great "entertainers". In some kind of way a part of them too have some 'special' skill of their own that hardly any others have.

And they give me the confidence i have a slight chance to reach my goal. As copying part of those "entertainers" music isn't difficult at all for start. Only have to find and create something 'own' with a special twist. For start by adding more 'music' in it to overrule.
And if not, i enjoy trying a lot. :mrgreen: That alone is enough for me to keep going on.

And IMHO at the end all music is entertainment. What would music be if it wouldn't entertain anyone?

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby carlv » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:40 pm

42low wrote:...And if not, i enjoy trying a lot. :mrgreen: That alone is enough for me to keep going on.

And IMHO at the end all music is entertainment. What would music be if it wouldn't entertain anyone?


With a little leg..., uh finger work, you should be able to find this little gem out there on the interwebs. Study it and go make some hits. Or just enjoy a fun read for the vacation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manual

Cheers!

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Click the external link @ the bottom of that page and "bob's your uncle." 8)

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby 42low » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:11 pm

Ow carlv, that's fun. Made a readable pdf of it for later.
Not gonna follow it up totaly but took a quick look and for sure there are some fun tips in it.
Thanks. :mrgreen:

Btw, fun music they've made.

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby carlv » Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:51 pm

:!:

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby Dominique » Sun May 27, 2018 2:39 pm

pop music is about show business and making money when popular music talk to the heart. Which imply they have not much in commun. End of the story. As example today, a guy like David Rovics is really doing popular music. He is not rich, no one of his songs is innocent, they all have a political background even when he's singing about love. Popular music talk about every thing, love, death, politics, the morons in charge, revolution, birds, money, money laundering, anything, and his goal is not to sell but to talk to the heart. When pop music goal is just about to sell.

Also, most people have a political education which is as poor than their musical education, which imply they just considere they must vote for the guy or buy the music in the publicity, because if they are in the pubm, they are popular. They are just confusing the result, a lot of people are listening to that music or voting for that gui, with the goal, to sell some piece of music or the political chief of the military-industrial complex, and are thinking because they sold a lot of that commercial crap, this is popular music, or the dead soldiers and civilians that gui will kill at war was heroes and terrorists.

Also, with the Vietnam war, the politics and the medias get the lesson: music can contribute to change the system. The result is than no one single mainstream media will send something else than what they call "politically correct" crap.

On the other hand, we musicians have a great chance, almost unique in our society: when we are at work, we are saying we play. In one word we are not civilised. And that true because many of the remaining tribes still living in the jungle have only one work to say to play and to work. They are playing all the time and are laughing as fools very often. The same is true for other artists like actors (I do both theater and music myself, both are really fun to do.).

The issue is like most people know nothing else than Babylon, nothing else than making money for a living with some mandatory work into our trashy and suprematist society, many musicians just doesn't realise the chance they have: they can play at work, making people happy at the same time, and just be happy themselves. Instead and like in the publicity, they just want more and are trying to make as much money than possible, transforming art into crap. Because arts is not only about making people happy, it is about to make people to understand how they can be happy, it is about opening the cage. A caged bird doesn't sing about greater cages, he's singing about liberty.

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Re: Decline of the instrumental intro in pop music

Postby 42low » Mon May 28, 2018 11:59 am

To me it's not about money. We had our better and less financial moments in our life. Now we have enough to live nicely and keeping this stable situation is good enough.
To me it's not about becoming famous. Although in other sectors, i've had my moments of "fame". Know "the top", and learned that the top isn't sacred or wonderful either.
To me it's not about politics or relegion. No comment.
To me it's not about the fairy tale that I could ever achieve something serious in it.
To me it's about the kick of reaching a one time "hit" to reaching a lot off people who then seem to like what i've made. The compliment for my musical and production "skills". The fun and pleasure of this. Music is for fun and pleasure at first to me, and i give away my productions for free.


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