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The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby GraysonPeddie » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:09 pm

Chapter 4 in a book called The Everything Songwriting Book is about lyrics. However, I'm not into writing lyrics. Can the chapter be skipped if I am writing instrumental music?

Does anyone have any recommendations for those writing instrumental music?
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby cidian » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:02 pm

I'm not familiar with this particular book, but some of what you learn about vocals could be applied to instrumental music as well. The "hole" that is left by not having vocals is often filled with a lead synth, guitar or other instrument of a similar frequency range as the human voice.
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby GraysonPeddie » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:06 pm

Okay, thanks.

Update: Okay, so I've delved into chapter 5 about melodies and some of the sections deal with lyrics when it comes to writing a melody. In my opinion, it's not applicable for me when it comes to writing instrumental music.

Update 2: The book tells me about keeping up with the trends and gave me the advice that I should listen to top 40 countdown music in the radio. Well, that made me laugh, because I listen to a lot of new age music. Yanni, David Arkenstone, 2002, Medwyn Goodall, Cusco, and a couple of others in Google Play Music All Access since I'm a subscriber. Now the question is, is there a Top 40 Countdown radio for new age (instrumental)? I'm not writing music as a career, but as more of a hobby. I don't intend to make money off of my songs in the future.

It seems the book is more for those who want to start a career in becoming a professional songwriter.
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby cidian » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:52 pm

Or you could keep up with trends that are more relevant to you by listening to the type of music you plan on creating :D

I also make instrumental music and two books that helped me tremendously in developing my skills are:

Music Theory for Computer Musicians
Dance Music Manual: Tools, Toys and Techniques
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby GraysonPeddie » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:44 pm

The more I read the book, the more it feels like making music is feeling so restrictive, such as making an intro that is very short -- less than 7 seconds for publishers to listen to. Granted, it's more of when it comes to getting my songs in FM radio (laughs). I don't mean to bash The Everything Songwriting Book, as it contains useful information, but I've had a feeling I'm not following it... (sigh)

So, I went ahead, purchased Music Theory for Computer Musicians in Google Play Books, and I'm getting started in reading it.

Thanks for listing the books you've linked.
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby Metrophage » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:42 am

It always puzzles me how many people equate "songs" with music. Even a drum machine might refer to conjoined structures as being a song. To me, a song means... people singing. I guess it could be dismissed as mere semantic nitpicking, but it always comes up because I like music, but typically disline songs, so to me they are definitely not equivalent.

Still, if I was reading a book on music that discussed writing lyrics, I would maybe read that part out of curiousity, even if I didn't intend to use it. My feeling that 99.99% of people are "doing it wrong" probably just means that I have some very peculiar ideas about it.

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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby Dominique » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:53 am

I agree with Metrophage. A song is a song, and when birds are making music for our ears when singing, human beings are using words. These words are the meaning of a song and the music is just an accompagnement. Which imply I always write the lyrics first, because its meaning and ambiance give me the best tonality(ies) for it. I begin to play and sing, and try different tonalities and rhythms to see what fit best. The rhythm is also important because if it is too fast, the song is too difficult to sing well, and when it is too slow, the song is boring. The rhythm can change with time, because I can find something better sometime, or because I am not in the same mood and want to play it differently.

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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby AlexTheBassist » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:29 am

Lyrics is the least required part in music, if not an undesired at all. However, “songwriting” doesn't only refer to writing songs. There's a lot besides silly rhymes.
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby AlexTheBassist » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:33 am

GraysonPeddie wrote:The more I read the book, the more it feels like making music is feeling so restrictive, such as making an intro that is very short -- less than 7 seconds for publishers to listen to. Granted, it's more of when it comes to getting my songs in FM radio (laughs).

That's how the show business rolls. If you want to be on top of charts, follow it. If you want to stay in the underground, do whatever you like, but you won't earn much with music, if anything at all.
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Re: The Everything Songwriting Book: Can Lyrics Be Skipped?

Postby raboof » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:06 am

cidian wrote:some of what you learn about vocals could be applied to instrumental music as well. The "hole" that is left by not having vocals is often filled with a lead synth, guitar or other instrument of a similar frequency range as the human voice.

I tend to agree: I'm not familiar with this particular book, but when writing for e.g. sax the 'phrasing' of your 'lines' as a sort of 'sentences' in a larger whole is a very powerful aspect. They may cover much of this in the 'melody' section, but it seems useful to at least skim the 'lyrics' section and see if there's any lessons that might carry over to other instruments.


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