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Linux Audio Workstation Build
I'm building a new computer. I've wanted to try a Ryzen processor and see what they're like for audio, so I went ahead.
My approach is perhaps a bit different from the usual build. I just want to get enough stuff to boot it, then I can add more bits as I go along. This stems from buying a stick of DDR4 by accident. I saw it in a second-hand shop and thought it was DDR3 because I had a mask on which makes my glasses steam up.
So some bits are temporary, like the memory stick and I will take the graphics card out this computer I'm typing on. The usual approach is 'the big bang' where a builder buys every bit in one go.
Here's my spec :
CPU : Ryzen 3900x
Cooler : Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Mobo : MSI B550 Pro
Storage : Adata 1TB Nvme M.2
Case : be quiet Silent Base 601
Power : be quiet Straight Power 11 650W
That should boot. Any thoughts welcome, including that I catastrophically messed up somewhere.
My approach is perhaps a bit different from the usual build. I just want to get enough stuff to boot it, then I can add more bits as I go along. This stems from buying a stick of DDR4 by accident. I saw it in a second-hand shop and thought it was DDR3 because I had a mask on which makes my glasses steam up.
So some bits are temporary, like the memory stick and I will take the graphics card out this computer I'm typing on. The usual approach is 'the big bang' where a builder buys every bit in one go.
Here's my spec :
CPU : Ryzen 3900x
Cooler : Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Mobo : MSI B550 Pro
Storage : Adata 1TB Nvme M.2
Case : be quiet Silent Base 601
Power : be quiet Straight Power 11 650W
That should boot. Any thoughts welcome, including that I catastrophically messed up somewhere.
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Re: Linux Audio Workstation Build
Ryzen 3900x may be one of the best current processors for audio production. A test at https://pcaudiolabs.com/amd-ryzen-3900x ... enchmarks/ had it running 48 tracks and 320 Reaxcomp Multiband compressors in Cubase.
If I were in the build market currently I'd probably go the more lowly but still vastly capable 3700x and save a couple hundred bucks.
What distro are you planning to install?
If I were in the build market currently I'd probably go the more lowly but still vastly capable 3700x and save a couple hundred bucks.
What distro are you planning to install?
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Should be fine for most things. An exception might be vcv Rack if you use that, for reasons about CCX that I don't fully understand. It's only in the new zen3 series that this problem is solved apparently.
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I had a look at the link and the 3900x does look good. They seem to have made a mistake somewhere though -- there are more plugins running at 44.1/16 than 96/1024. That doesn't seem right but I'll find out when it arrives.sunrat wrote:Ryzen 3900x may be one of the best current processors for audio production. A test at https://pcaudiolabs.com/amd-ryzen-3900x ... enchmarks/ had it running 48 tracks and 320 Reaxcomp Multiband compressors in Cubase.
Yes, the 3700x also seems a good chip. I had been looking at 5000 series chips, so I was prepared for the hit. Perhaps that was a triumph of marketing and price points
I'm going to install Arch. From scratch again. I may come to regret that after a week of the command line
sysrqer wrote: An exception might be vcv Rack if you use that, for reasons about CCX that I don't fully understand. It's only in the new zen3 series that this problem is solved apparently.
I'll be interested to try VCVRack as I haven't been able to run it a low latency on my current setup. I was hoping I would see an improvement so I will be trying VCVRack.
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The first part to arrive was the power supply :
One goal of this build is to make it quiet. This is a 650W fully modular power supply and uses a quiet fan. I used PC Part Picker to spec this build and it gives a power consumption of 310W. Choosing a 650W supply means I will be running it at about halfway, which is the where the power supply is at its most efficient. Also the fan won't run at full speed. Fully modular supplies are also supposed to be quiet because having no cables inside means there is more room for air to circulate.
One goal of this build is to make it quiet. This is a 650W fully modular power supply and uses a quiet fan. I used PC Part Picker to spec this build and it gives a power consumption of 310W. Choosing a 650W supply means I will be running it at about halfway, which is the where the power supply is at its most efficient. Also the fan won't run at full speed. Fully modular supplies are also supposed to be quiet because having no cables inside means there is more room for air to circulate.
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The case arrived. It's bigger than I thought. No amount of using a tape measure to help visualise the size of it gave me a true picture. I wanted a case bigger than the one I have, and I certainly got that! A bit of a beast :
This case is supposed to be quiet, in fact that is the brand : be quiet!. It has quiet fans and thick padding to keep noise down. So far I like the fact that the sides come off using a button -- no screwdriver required.
This case is supposed to be quiet, in fact that is the brand : be quiet!. It has quiet fans and thick padding to keep noise down. So far I like the fact that the sides come off using a button -- no screwdriver required.
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The cooler :
I was stunned at how big this was. Again my goal was quiet and I searched 'quietest CPU cooler'. This one got a good review but quiet means it's enormous. Just as well I got the big case.
I was stunned at how big this was. Again my goal was quiet and I searched 'quietest CPU cooler'. This one got a good review but quiet means it's enormous. Just as well I got the big case.
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Motherboard :
This has a good solid feel to it. It's got a good weight. There are a few chipsets that can be used with new Ryzen CPUs. X470, X570, B550. There could be more. The higher end chipsets allow more graphics cards and maybe more PCIe lanes -- whatever it was they weren't features that were relevant to this build. I had previously rejected the idea of an X570 because they have a fan. Reports are that the fan on the motherboard is not too noisy, but will that still be the case in a year?
This board was one of the cheaper B550 boards because it has 1Gb ethernet rather than 2.5Gb, which was fine with me.
This has a good solid feel to it. It's got a good weight. There are a few chipsets that can be used with new Ryzen CPUs. X470, X570, B550. There could be more. The higher end chipsets allow more graphics cards and maybe more PCIe lanes -- whatever it was they weren't features that were relevant to this build. I had previously rejected the idea of an X570 because they have a fan. Reports are that the fan on the motherboard is not too noisy, but will that still be the case in a year?
This board was one of the cheaper B550 boards because it has 1Gb ethernet rather than 2.5Gb, which was fine with me.
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M.2 Drive :
The size of this was a surprise too. This time how small it was and I've put a guitar pick in for scale. These are supposed to be lightning fast and that makes me rethink how I will divide my system across partitions. I usually put /home on a different partition, but if this is my fastest storage and I only have two of these slots I am thinking about just putting everything here: root, /home, the lot and use directories within my home directory for audio projects.
The size of this was a surprise too. This time how small it was and I've put a guitar pick in for scale. These are supposed to be lightning fast and that makes me rethink how I will divide my system across partitions. I usually put /home on a different partition, but if this is my fastest storage and I only have two of these slots I am thinking about just putting everything here: root, /home, the lot and use directories within my home directory for audio projects.
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The smallest and by far the most expensive part : the CPU. But you don't get diamonds as big as rocks.
This an OEM chip so it just came in a box on a bit of pink foam. It went in the socket. Phew. No bent pins.
With this I was thinking power. When I started out with computers this chip would have been considered a supercomputer like a Cray-2 with the main board floating in flourinert.
This an OEM chip so it just came in a box on a bit of pink foam. It went in the socket. Phew. No bent pins.
With this I was thinking power. When I started out with computers this chip would have been considered a supercomputer like a Cray-2 with the main board floating in flourinert.
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The RAM I bought by accident :
It says DDR4 on it. You'd have to have defective eyesight not to notice. (Or steamed up glasses.)
So that's it. Now it's time to shut this computer down and take the graphics card out. In my research I found there is a global shortage of graphics cards -- some of the prices are ludicrous -- so it's a good time to hang off.
It says DDR4 on it. You'd have to have defective eyesight not to notice. (Or steamed up glasses.)
So that's it. Now it's time to shut this computer down and take the graphics card out. In my research I found there is a global shortage of graphics cards -- some of the prices are ludicrous -- so it's a good time to hang off.
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It booted first time. I've built a few computers, some for gamers, and they don't always boot first time. Motherboards are really good these days. On this motherboard there are LEDs to tell you if there is a problem and what it is -- RAM, CPU or boot medium.
I was using an old TV as a monitor and it decided now was a good time to stop working. I think it may not have liked being turned off and on by DPMS, anyway it bust and that set me back a bit.
There has been more Linux than music. I'm typing this on the old machine connected to the new machine through vnc via a network switch. I could have dived straight into music but I decided to sort the Linux bit, and actually I like that. This is an issue that musicians often raise. "I just want to work on music".
I'm not convinced of the validity of that. If you bought a guitar you wouldn't expect immediately to be able to produce music with it. It takes years of practice. Why then should a computer boot up and immediately start producing music? Compared to learning an instrument a week to set up a computer for music is nothing.
The other side of the argument is that system administration is a different headspace from the creative headspace involved in music, and having to deal with configuration knocks you out of the zone. Yes, there is some truth to that, but I think if I get all the configuration out of the way at the start I can then get into the zone without interruptions later.
I'm getting there with the setup and will be able to do music tests soon.
I was using an old TV as a monitor and it decided now was a good time to stop working. I think it may not have liked being turned off and on by DPMS, anyway it bust and that set me back a bit.
There has been more Linux than music. I'm typing this on the old machine connected to the new machine through vnc via a network switch. I could have dived straight into music but I decided to sort the Linux bit, and actually I like that. This is an issue that musicians often raise. "I just want to work on music".
I'm not convinced of the validity of that. If you bought a guitar you wouldn't expect immediately to be able to produce music with it. It takes years of practice. Why then should a computer boot up and immediately start producing music? Compared to learning an instrument a week to set up a computer for music is nothing.
The other side of the argument is that system administration is a different headspace from the creative headspace involved in music, and having to deal with configuration knocks you out of the zone. Yes, there is some truth to that, but I think if I get all the configuration out of the way at the start I can then get into the zone without interruptions later.
I'm getting there with the setup and will be able to do music tests soon.
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All the components in the case :
There is a lot of space left for hard drives which go in cages that screw into the gaps. It's the length (front to back) that's big on this case and that's to accommodate long graphics cards. It had to be this size though to get the width for the CPU cooler.
As wiring goes this is pretty neat and the process was helped by having enough room and using a modular power supply. The case came with velcro ties to manage the cables.
The case has a speed control for the two fans that it comes with. It's quiet on 1. On 3 I can hear it, but it's the sound of air moving, rather than a noisy fan. The case and power supply are quiet -- nearly silent. The noisiest part is now the old graphics card. It's quieter than it was before because the case has padding, but this is an area for improvement.
There is a lot of space left for hard drives which go in cages that screw into the gaps. It's the length (front to back) that's big on this case and that's to accommodate long graphics cards. It had to be this size though to get the width for the CPU cooler.
As wiring goes this is pretty neat and the process was helped by having enough room and using a modular power supply. The case came with velcro ties to manage the cables.
The case has a speed control for the two fans that it comes with. It's quiet on 1. On 3 I can hear it, but it's the sound of air moving, rather than a noisy fan. The case and power supply are quiet -- nearly silent. The noisiest part is now the old graphics card. It's quieter than it was before because the case has padding, but this is an area for improvement.