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Resource repository for presets etc: what to share?

Post by raboof »

In this thread, the idea came up to make a repository to store application presets, patches, templates, scripts etc.

One questions is: what kinds of data, specifically, would be useful to share?

Let me kick off:
- ZynAddSubFX instruments
- sineshaper presets
- AMS patches
- guitarix presets
- guitarrack presets
- PureData patches
- ...etc?
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Post by Jan »

raboof wrote:In this thread, the idea came up to make a repository to store application presets, patches, templates, scripts etc.

One questions is: what kinds of data, specifically, would be useful to share?

Let me kick off:
- ZynAddSubFX instruments
- sineshaper presets
- AMS patches
- guitarix presets
- guitarrack presets
- PureData patches
- ...etc?
- Ardour templates
- JackRack presets
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Post by studio32 »

Presets seems to have some kind of 'bad name' in the Linux audio world. It's not good for creativity or to gain real knowledge, some say. But imo presets can make life more easy and form a good starting point for creativity and knowledge.

1) make sure the repo is easy to find and easy accessible for people. Remember we talk about newbies here...
2) Maybe you can make an website http://www.presets.linuxaudio.org or something
3) Link it to another website to prevent fragmentation, e.g. linuxmusicians or linuxaudio.org
4) Make a clear ordering of the presets. A lot of places with gathered presets are a mess...
5) There are already a lot of presets everywhere, gather those and bring them together at one place.
6) Make it possible to discuss the presets at some place, which are good for what...

Ladish is especially interesting here, especially when it will be able to create 'rooms' in a 'studio' in Ladish (preview 0.3)*. Those rooms can be exported and shared AFAIK in preview 0.4. You can load them in your studios in Ladish. A room is combination of applications and jack connections with certain settings.

Other interesting things to share:
- Ingen presets
- Lv2rack presets (combination guitar effects for example)
- Zynaddsubfx/Yoshimi presets
- Fluxbox settings (.fluxbox folder)
- Linux audio session scripts (like those of openoctave.org)
- Qjackctl patchbays
- LADSPA/ LV2 presets (to use in Ardour or other app)
- AMS patches
- Jack-Rack patches
- Zynadd presets


* http://ladish.org/roadmap
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Post by Pablo »

I agree. I would vote for three main folders:

1. Applications

2. Integration

3. Configuration

For example, and adding some more ideas to yours:

1. Applications

Ardour
Templates (folder)
templates (files)
README (maybe explaining what an ardour template is and how you can load it)
....
Hydrogen
Songs (folder)
Patterns (folder)
Scripts (folder)
(Here goes the makekit script from garryO, if he agrees)
Ingen
Presets (folder)

LADSPA
By author, by category?
SC4 (folder)
presets (files)

And so on.

2. Integration

Here two main folders:

Integration scripts (folder)
Here goes any script that integrates two or more apps. For example, klick2ardour.py . Or the kind of script shown in http://digitaldub.wordpress.com/2009/12 ... scripting/

Ladish studios (or rooms?) (folder)
ladish studios or rooms

3. Configuration and diagnosis
Scripts for configuration and diagnosis to make things easier to users, like raboof's quickscanaudio, alsa-info.sh and any other of this kind

With this, it could be called PRESeTUX:
PREsets, Scripts and Templates for linUX audio. Too weird? :P

Of course, the more users collaborate, the more presets, templates and scripts will be and maybe some upstream developers and distros can use them for their apps, distros and make things easier, not only for linux audio beginners, but for all of us. But before announcing it, this project should take some shape.

Cheers! Pablo
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Post by mauser »

Hi!

I'm not sure if you know it, but hydrogen is able to fetch drumkits, pattern and songs from a user-defined server. So if there is a ressource which offers those data it could be easily integrated in hydrogen.
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Re: Resource repository for presets etc: what to share?

Post by dakylla »

hi,

i like the idea. it remind me somehow the way ardour uses http://www.freesound.org to get free audio samples.
by the way, is there a "standard" for ladspa to store presets (~/.ladspa) ?
what about lv2 ? presets created in ardour don't seems to be available for other daw.
maybe there should be some sort of api to access/query the preset database from the outside (think integration into Linux major audio apps). maybe there could be a little utility to manage the presets, so that the audio apps won't need to care about that.
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dakylla wrote:hi,

i like the idea. it remind me somehow the way ardour uses http://www.freesound.org to get free audio samples.
by the way, is there a "standard" for ladspa to store presets (~/.ladspa) ?
what about lv2 ? presets created in ardour don't seems to be available for other daw.
maybe there should be some sort of api to access/query the preset database from the outside (think integration into Linux major audio apps). maybe there could be a little utility to manage the presets, so that the audio apps won't need to care about that.
As far as I found out, LADSPA presets are saved in the host. Don't know about LV2.

The API is a good idea, but a little too soon right now. First we must get the thing organized and running. An API to fetch the presets would also require hosting that's quick and stable and traffic should not be a problem, either. And the programs must be willing to incorporate a fetch feature. That's the chicken and the egg problem: What should be there first: the content or the features? Content should be the priority first, because if there's no content it would make no sense to build an API and for the program maintainers it would make no sense to incorporate such a feature into their programs.

kde-look.org is a good example: They built up a lot of content and the fetch feature in KDE 4 really makes sense now.
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studio32

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Post by studio32 »

Hey all,

It was quite a while ago that I emailed the list with some questions
about the best way to package my voices for ZynAddSubFX for download
on my website, and I finally got around to actually doing it now. I
don't email often, but I certainly benefit from reading all the
interesting emails, so this is my way of giving back to the community.
Feel free to take the voices and do whatever you want with them, just
don't claim them as your own or sell them (unless of course you modify
them to your liking, then they are yours).

Go to http://www.airlynx.sitesled.com and scroll straight to the
bottom of the page and you'll see a text link that says ZynAddSubFX
voices.

Alternatively you can use the http://airlynx.co.cc shortcut

Thanks to all the awesome people here!




p.s. Let me know what you think
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Post by Jan »

Thanks, studio32. I am just working on our site, which slowly takes shape, it seems.
studio32 wrote:
Hey all,

It was quite a while ago that I emailed the list with some questions
about the best way to package my voices for ZynAddSubFX for download
on my website, and I finally got around to actually doing it now. I
don't email often, but I certainly benefit from reading all the
interesting emails, so this is my way of giving back to the community.
Feel free to take the voices and do whatever you want with them, just
don't claim them as your own or sell them (unless of course you modify
them to your liking, then they are yours).

Go to http://www.airlynx.sitesled.com and scroll straight to the
bottom of the page and you'll see a text link that says ZynAddSubFX
voices.

Alternatively you can use the http://airlynx.co.cc shortcut

Thanks to all the awesome people here!




p.s. Let me know what you think
The more it stays the same, the less it changes
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