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Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:29 am
by gimmeapill
Thanks Crocoduck - you were faster than me ;-)

Those parabola "scripts" are just a bunch of arbitrary commands disguised as a service that rely on assumptions without testing anything...I wouldn't recommend them (unless you have the exact same HW & SW config as the developer).

Not everyone want to run all the time with "cpupower frequency-set -g performance"...or have and SSD as /dev/sda...or need 8 virtual midi ports (ok, I'm being picky, this one doesn't harm).

Not saying that the concept is necessarily wrong, but I don't think the implementation is ready for prime time...

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:11 pm
by gimmeapill
And yeah, it looks like the archaudio forums already do what we need:
http://archaudio.org/forums/

Just nobody knows about them, and it's a nice desert...

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:55 pm
by schivmeister
What needs to be done basically, likely with support from the greater Arch community (Manjaro, Parabola, etc.):

- A web developer for the website and forums (one big upgrade: make everything look consistent - nice layouts, no broken stuff)
- A server administrator to setup website and packaging infrastructure (one big upgrade: investigation of Git over SVN, and package signing)
- A packager or two to exploit the build server (one big upgrade: automated nightly builds of popular/useful packages)
- Content writer (Harry Harren revived this side for a while)

Of course, one person could fill all these roles, and I'm likely missing some other roles. Kudos to CrocoDuck and the rest of you for keeping the spirit up!

Note: Providing a single channel for this special interest is different from a personal effort, in that one would expect a bit more quality control and some responsibility - but that comes with any team effort versus individual effort :)

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:46 pm
by CrocoDuck
schivmeister wrote:- A web developer for the website and forums (one big upgrade: make everything look consistent - nice layouts, no broken stuff)
- A server administrator to setup website and packaging infrastructure (one big upgrade: investigation of Git over SVN, and package signing)


I think I am pretty clueless about this stuff. But I think I could try to do something here:
schivmeister wrote:- A packager or two to exploit the build server (one big upgrade: automated nightly builds of popular/useful packages)
- Content writer (Harry Harren revived this side for a while)


Still, I have been managing just 4 PKGBUILDS on the AUR up to now. I really have no idea about how much of a workload it would be to keep a building server running with many more packages... or how to setup the automated nightly build. To be honest, I have no idea about how a build server even works. Still, I have the feeling it is something I can move my baby steps into.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:19 am
by sysrqer
Is the audio stuff in aur updated regularly? I was just checking a few packages and I noticed that EQ10Q is out of date.
I'm thinking about going back to an arch based distro and I remember the audio packages in aur were pretty slow to get updated, if they weren't more or less abandoned.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:25 am
by funkmuscle
I just update the pkgbuild when using yaourt.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:33 am
by funkmuscle
sysrqer wrote:Is the audio stuff in aur updated regularly? I was just checking a few packages and I noticed that EQ10Q is out of date.
I'm thinking about going back to an arch based distro and I remember the audio packages in aur were pretty slow to get updated, if they weren't more or less abandoned.

isn't EQ10Q version 2.1? That's what it is at it's website and AUR is 2.1 also unless I'm reading it wrong. That has happened in the past. :mrgreen:

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:49 am
by sysrqer
Haha yeah you're right. Maybe I'm going mad. I could have sworn there was a release since that and that the versions were different when I checked earlier, or maybe I imagined it :shock: :oops:

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:29 am
by funkmuscle
sysrqer wrote:Haha yeah you're right. Maybe I'm going mad. I could have sworn there was a release since that and that the versions were different when I checked earlier, or maybe I imagined it :shock: :oops:

all good man!! :D

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:24 am
by gimmeapill
While I'm not a heavy user at the moment, I'd say AUR fulfills all my audio software needs pretty nicely.
If something doesn't work, it is either a 5 min fix or that upstream is in bad shape (the latter is usually better addressed via a bug report than a plaster at packaging time).
One thing that is probably not stressed enough: it is generally a good idea to keep a small build archive to allow for rollback in case it is needed.
Ex: linux-rt, ardour & so on...

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:21 pm
by CrocoDuck
sysrqer wrote:Is the audio stuff in aur updated regularly? I was just checking a few packages and I noticed that EQ10Q is out of date.
I'm thinking about going back to an arch based distro and I remember the audio packages in aur were pretty slow to get updated, if they weren't more or less abandoned.


I try to keep mine as up to date as possible and I have the impression that most of the audio stuff is good quality. I have encountered most problems with scientific software, which might be pretty hard to build (hence, the kinda dodgy PKGBUILDs).

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:05 am
by gimmeapill
Speaking of which, I wanted to try the latest Qtractor yesterday but noticed the git pkgbuild had disappeared from AUR.
So I quickly put another one together:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qtractor-git/

If I stepped on anybody's toes, let me know and I'll handover the package.
Otherwise I can maintain - it doesn't seem to be too complicated.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:17 pm
by funkmuscle
gimmeapill wrote:Speaking of which, I wanted to try the latest Qtractor yesterday but noticed the git pkgbuild had disappeared from AUR.
So I quickly put another one together:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qtractor-git/

If I stepped on anybody's toes, let me know and I'll handover the package.
Otherwise I can maintain - it doesn't seem to be too complicated.

no dude, thank you.. They're removed many AUR since the upgrade. Qtractor was one that was removed.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:01 pm
by gimmeapill
no dude, thank you.. They're removed many AUR since the upgrade. Qtractor was one that was removed.


It is much more recent: Qtractor-git had been ported to AUR4 and I was using it from time to time to check out new versions. Dunno what happened with this one, but it must have vanished less than 2 months ago. What I find weird is that an AUR admin must have accepted to delete a working pkgbuild for an actively maintained software project which is plain wrong. Anyway it's back now.

Re: Archlinux audio subforum

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:54 pm
by gimmeapill
Some fresh new pkgbuilds:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gx-lv2-git/
Additional Guitarix effects in LV2 format

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/fluidplug-git/
SoundFonts as LV2 plugins via FluidSynth

Cheers,

LX