Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
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Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
i got new machine recently , on which i installed Arch Linux,Pro-Audio, cadence,obs-studio27.0.1 , ardour6.9. as i am trying to connect ardour with obs in cadence-claudia i am having trouble as the feedback button on ardour gets lighten up red and shows 'no align'. i did try different options like
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgC4sE3_Oos as this video suggest to make connection of obs jack input to ardour , it doesnt work.
2.tried with qjackctl , it gives the same error mention as above.
3. tried to use pulseaudio sink and sources , it doesnt help either.
4.viewtopic.php?f=64&t=20498&p=136245#p136245 as per answer of this question asked by me again gives me the same error.
but i am firm on using cadence-claudia for keeping session saved for all connection . please do help me in making this possible
thank you.
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgC4sE3_Oos as this video suggest to make connection of obs jack input to ardour , it doesnt work.
2.tried with qjackctl , it gives the same error mention as above.
3. tried to use pulseaudio sink and sources , it doesnt help either.
4.viewtopic.php?f=64&t=20498&p=136245#p136245 as per answer of this question asked by me again gives me the same error.
but i am firm on using cadence-claudia for keeping session saved for all connection . please do help me in making this possible
thank you.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
Hi @Aquarious12,
would be helpful to have a screenshot of your mixer view in Ardour, so we can see what are your input and outputs on your channels and master.
Without this it's hard to troubleshoot.
would be helpful to have a screenshot of your mixer view in Ardour, so we can see what are your input and outputs on your channels and master.
Without this it's hard to troubleshoot.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
here it is with /without the claudia connection
1. screenshot is after claudia connection
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
I have no experience w/ Ardour, let alone with OBS-Studio. However, in the LinuxAudio forum answer you refer to it looks to me like you had to connect output of Ardour to "an input" of Jack. My guess is that the "Jack IN" in Ardour is the OBS Studio software. My other guess is that it's not a Midi connection but audio (duh!).
I think most people here have experience with qjackctl for Jack connections. Not that I'd like you to use qjackctl permanently, but for troubleshooting and getting help it might be handy to post a screenshot of qjackctl and it's "Connections" window open on the "Audio" tab. I use https://postimages.org and gnome-screenshot --interactive for that. Like so:
Also, are you sure you've started Jack for the right audio device? And are both Ardour and OBS configured to use Jack instead of Alsa or PulseAudio?
Good luck trougleshooting!
I think most people here have experience with qjackctl for Jack connections. Not that I'd like you to use qjackctl permanently, but for troubleshooting and getting help it might be handy to post a screenshot of qjackctl and it's "Connections" window open on the "Audio" tab. I use https://postimages.org and gnome-screenshot --interactive for that. Like so:
Also, are you sure you've started Jack for the right audio device? And are both Ardour and OBS configured to use Jack instead of Alsa or PulseAudio?
Good luck trougleshooting!
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
here are some images as you mentioned , there is not connect button in qjackctl , its mentioned as graph as the images of claudiaLinuxmusician01 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:28 am I have no experience w/ Ardour, let alone with OBS-Studio. However, in the LinuxAudio forum answer you refer to it looks to me like you had to connect output of Ardour to "an input" of Jack. My guess is that the "Jack IN" in Ardour is the OBS Studio software. My other guess is that it's not a Midi connection but audio (duh!).
I think most people here have experience with qjackctl for Jack connections. Not that I'd like you to use qjackctl permanently, but for troubleshooting and getting help it might be handy to post a screenshot of qjackctl and it's "Connections" window open on the "Audio" tab. I use https://postimages.org and gnome-screenshot --interactive for that. Like so:
Also, are you sure you've started Jack for the right audio device? And are both Ardour and OBS configured to use Jack instead of Alsa or PulseAudio?
Good luck trougleshooting!
as you can see there are two cases with connection of only master output and connection of every output of ardour in jack obs client . both the cases gives the same no align message on feedback button with red light . but i am able to record the sound in obs recordings by these connections.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
Unfortunately, the images are of too low a resolution for me to see what is connected with what (I can't click on 'm either to see a larger version to zoom into). However, I do see in Jack's connection Graph that, concerning audio (not Midi) Ardour's "Geonkick Single oudio out" is connected to Ardour's own "Master audio IN". I don't know for sure, but isn't that gonna cause tremendous feedback (a loud high pitched tone)? Shouldn't Ardour's "Geonkick" be connected to "System playback" (audio)?Aquarious12 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:58 am here are some images as you mentioned , there is not connect button in qjackctl , its mentioned as graph as the images of claudia
as you can see there are two cases with connection of only master output and connection of every output of ardour in jack obs client . both the cases gives the same no align message on feedback button with red light . but i am able to record the sound in obs recordings by these connections.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
about images there is a limit of 200kb for uploading the images which makes watching them difficult.Linuxmusician01 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:50 pmUnfortunately, the images are of too low a resolution for me to see what is connected with what (I can't click on 'm either to see a larger version to zoom into). However, I do see in Jack's connection Graph that, concerning audio (not Midi) Ardour's "Geonkick Single oudio out" is connected to Ardour's own "Master audio IN". I don't know for sure, but isn't that gonna cause tremendous feedback (a loud high pitched tone)? Shouldn't Ardour's "Geonkick" be connected to "System playback" (audio)?Aquarious12 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:58 am here are some images as you mentioned , there is not connect button in qjackctl , its mentioned as graph as the images of claudia
as you can see there are two cases with connection of only master output and connection of every output of ardour in jack obs client . both the cases gives the same no align message on feedback button with red light . but i am able to record the sound in obs recordings by these connections.
about the feedback loop of geonkick plugin the connection is not made by me its default in graph
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
Hi @Aquarious12,
as far I know the "No Align" message is a warning of ambiguous latency, not feedback (https://github.com/Ardour/ardour/blob/a ... i2.cc#L827 ).
I tried to recreate it but with no luck:
as far I know the "No Align" message is a warning of ambiguous latency, not feedback (https://github.com/Ardour/ardour/blob/a ... i2.cc#L827 ).
I tried to recreate it but with no luck:
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
No, the screenshots correctly show Ardour's internal routing for 'Geonkick'.Linuxmusician01 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:50 pm However, I do see in Jack's connection Graph that, concerning audio (not Midi) Ardour's "Geonkick Single oudio out" is connected to Ardour's own "Master audio IN". I don't know for sure, but isn't that gonna cause tremendous feedback (a loud high pitched tone)? Shouldn't Ardour's "Geonkick" be connected to "System playback" (audio)?
The feedback is, I think, coming from 'capture_1' and 'capture_2' being connected to 'Master/audio_in 1' and 'Master/audio_in 2'.
Claudia is based on LADISH, which, as far as I know, is out of date. I haven't used Claudia for a while, but I remember Claudia and Ardour fighting over who was in charge of the routing.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
thanks for replymerlyn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:19 pmNo, the screenshots correctly show Ardour's internal routing for 'Geonkick'.Linuxmusician01 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:50 pm However, I do see in Jack's connection Graph that, concerning audio (not Midi) Ardour's "Geonkick Single oudio out" is connected to Ardour's own "Master audio IN". I don't know for sure, but isn't that gonna cause tremendous feedback (a loud high pitched tone)? Shouldn't Ardour's "Geonkick" be connected to "System playback" (audio)?
The feedback is, I think, coming from 'capture_1' and 'capture_2' being connected to 'Master/audio_in 1' and 'Master/audio_in 2'.
Claudia is based on LADISH, which, as far as I know, is out of date. I haven't used Claudia for a while, but I remember Claudia and Ardour fighting over who was in charge of the routing.
as for the feedback part of connections i did try to make the said changes but the result was same
as soon as i connect the output of master to jack input client the no align sign appears with red light
as faras claudia been out of date can you suggest anything . as i do use qjackctl sometimes but there is no saving option of made connection in graph , need something that have this setting.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
i am also not aware about it , anyone can help ,thats welcome.
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
In the screenshot the "capture_1/2" are connected to the "physyical_audio_input_monitor_enable". I don't know what that is, could be something enabled in the Ardour's preferences? like: https://manual.ardour.org/preferences-a ... ignal_flow
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i am sure about what this can do for no align, please do help.LAM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:58 pmIn the screenshot the "capture_1/2" are connected to the "physyical_audio_input_monitor_enable". I don't know what that is, could be something enabled in the Ardour's preferences? like: https://manual.ardour.org/preferences-a ... ignal_flow
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Re: Problem in recording ardour6.9 sound with OBS Studios with claudia?
There are a couple of session managers -- Agordejo https://www.laborejo.org/agordejo/ and RaySession https://github.com/Houston4444/RaySession.Aquarious12 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:51 pm as faras claudia been out of date can you suggest anything . as i do use qjackctl sometimes but there is no saving option of made connection in graph , need something that have this setting.
I've been trying out RaySession and it seems good. It has a patchbay which is based on the Carla patchbay, so that should be familiar to you coming from Claudia.
I'll have a look at that ...LAM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:58 pm In the screenshot the "capture_1/2" are connected to the "physyical_audio_input_monitor_enable". I don't know what that is, could be something enabled in the Ardour's preferences? like: https://manual.ardour.org/preferences-a ... ignal_flow