Time signature in LMMS

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:48 pm

milo wrote:Yes, that's correct. Each vertical column represents a 1/16th note.


OK.

I'm not really sure what's going on in your 3/4 time example posted above. Why do the 1/16th notes in the hihat_opened01.ogg track not line up with the others? That doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it's a bug? (Or is it a feature?)


In fact it is the hihat track that has the correct number of 1/16th blocks. The other two have one to many.
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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby lilith » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:53 pm

Seems to be a bug, at least it makes no sense.
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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby milo » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:59 pm

Try starting from a new project file and change the time signature to 3/4 before doing anything else. Then open up the beat/bassline editor, add some tracks, and see if the vertical columns line up.

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:06 pm

milo wrote:Try starting from a new project file and change the time signature to 3/4 before doing anything else. Then open up the beat/bassline editor, add some tracks, and see if the vertical columns line up.


In that case the vertical columns nicely line up.

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:16 pm

I think this explains what happens:

4-4.png


3-4.png


The last beat is only completely removed when changing from a 4/4 to a 3/4 time signature when there is nothing in it.
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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby rghvdberg » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:51 am

The length of a pattern in lmms can be any size and doesn't have to match the time signature in the song.

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby milo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:12 am

So I messed around with LMMS when I got home from work, and I can't replicate the weird behavior you saw in 3/4 time. (LMMS 1.1.3 from the Ubuntu multiverse repository on Linux Mint 18.3)

rghvdberg is right; patterns can be any length. If you have a 4/4 pattern and switch the time signature to 3/4, then the 4th beat of yhe pattern is now played on the 1st beat of the 2nd measure, and then 2 empty beats to finish the second measure are played before the pattern loops back to the first measure. Switching to 5/4 just adds a single empty beat at the end of the measure before it loops back to the first beat.

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:11 am

milo wrote:So I messed around with LMMS when I got home from work, and I can't replicate the weird behavior you saw in 3/4 time. (LMMS 1.1.3 from the Ubuntu multiverse repository on Linux Mint 18.3)

Yes - but I have LMMS 1.0.0 on Linux Mint 17 because I need Vestige.

rghvdberg is right; patterns can be any length. If you have a 4/4 pattern and switch the time signature to 3/4, then the 4th beat of yhe pattern is now played on the 1st beat of the 2nd measure, and then 2 empty beats to finish the second measure are played before the pattern loops back to the first measure. Switching to 5/4 just adds a single empty beat at the end of the measure before it loops back to the first beat.

That would indeed be more logical.

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby rghvdberg » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:49 am

The appimage download from lmms.io surely has vestige.
Here's a screeny.
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appimages are 64 bit though, dunno if you are still on 32 bit

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:27 am

Yes - I still have a 32 bit system. :(

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Re: Time signature in LMMS

Postby LinMusGuy » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:15 am

Given that in LMMS one beat consists of 4 vertical columns is it even possible to enter a sample corresponding to a 1/4th note?


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