Exported audio has random clicks on some players
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Exported audio has random clicks on some players
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The audio I export with Ardour and Audacity, no matter the format, has some random clicking noises when I play it, for example, with SMPlayer, or with Chrome and Firefox. This is particularly annoying because I would like to upload my music on the internet.
It seems that this does *not* happen if I play mp3 files of other origin (e.g. my Dire Straits cd).
What could be the problem?
What I tried so far:
- Normalizing to -0.1 dB before exporting
- Wav, mp3 and ogg of different qualities
...but this does not seem to make any difference!
If I play them with Audacious or VLC, instead, the clicks are not there.
The audio I export with Ardour and Audacity, no matter the format, has some random clicking noises when I play it, for example, with SMPlayer, or with Chrome and Firefox. This is particularly annoying because I would like to upload my music on the internet.
It seems that this does *not* happen if I play mp3 files of other origin (e.g. my Dire Straits cd).
What could be the problem?
What I tried so far:
- Normalizing to -0.1 dB before exporting
- Wav, mp3 and ogg of different qualities
...but this does not seem to make any difference!
If I play them with Audacious or VLC, instead, the clicks are not there.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
the audio going to your soundcard has holes in it.
What format are the exports? Are you running jack during playback?
I assume that the clicks are in different places each playback and the source material does not have any clicks?
What format are the exports? Are you running jack during playback?
I assume that the clicks are in different places each playback and the source material does not have any clicks?
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
I've tried ogg, wav, mp3.ssj71 wrote:What format are the exports?
Yes, I have no sound otherwise (KXStudio).ssj71 wrote:Are you running jack during playback?
Actually, they seem to have the clicks always in the same places, or at least, regions.ssj71 wrote:I assume that the clicks are in different places each playback
I would say no, since on VLC and Audacity they play flawlessly, and the waveform in Audacity is nice and continuous.ssj71 wrote: and the source material does not have any clicks?
Where can I upload it?artek wrote:Can you post example?
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are you clipping? Maybe these other players clip if peaks are over some value. You can normalize the track if thats the case.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
I tried to normalize to -0.1 db. But it still did it. Should I try lower?ssj71 wrote:are you clipping? Maybe these other players clip if peaks are over some value. You can normalize the track if thats the case.
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Couldn't hurt. I'm out of ideas.paul wrote:Should I try lower?
I guess you might try to record the output of one of those programs and look at the waveform. It might give a clue on what conditions cause the clicks.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
Couple of things: Is SMplayer definitely using jack directly or is it using alsa bridged to jack? The reason I ask is because you also mention chrome and firefox, and I know that the alsa bridges can sometimes cause clicks and glitches.
The other thing, definitely try taking the peak level down to -0.3db. I know soundcloud, as a particular example, has issues sometimes with files with peaks too high even if they are not at 0.0db.
The other thing, definitely try taking the peak level down to -0.3db. I know soundcloud, as a particular example, has issues sometimes with files with peaks too high even if they are not at 0.0db.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
It uses Jack directly. Yeah I was thinking to of an ALSA issue.sysrqer wrote:Couple of things: Is SMplayer definitely using jack directly or is it using alsa bridged to jack?
No improvementsysrqer wrote: The other thing, definitely try taking the peak level down to -0.3db.
The waveform looks pretty normal, I don't see "holes", but...the recorded track is clipping, despite that the file is normalized to -0.5. Is it possible that some software normalizes the track before playing it...or even simply boosts the volume?ssj71 wrote:I guess you might try to record the output of one of those programs and look at the waveform. It might give a clue on what conditions cause the clicks.
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the holes get filled in with the next audio data or zeros so you are looking for non-smooth waveforms: sudden jumps. You can just listen to it and try to zoom in where it clicks and look. If you find it clicks when the peaks are high it would indicate its actually clipping not xruns.paul wrote: The waveform looks pretty normal, I don't see "holes", but...the recorded track is clipping, despite that the file is normalized to -0.5. Is it possible that some software normalizes the track before playing it...or even simply boosts the volume?
Its definitely possible software normalizes the tracks on playback. It obnoxious when a song mixed loud plays right next to one mixed softly. So some players have an automatic gain compensation to try to make all songs sound equally loud.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
But that is pretty stupid if that very software cannot handle clipping audio...ssj71 wrote:Its definitely possible software normalizes the tracks on playback. It obnoxious when a song mixed loud plays right next to one mixed softly. So some players have an automatic gain compensation to try to make all songs sound equally loud.
(Also, most "loud mixed" songs are loud because of compression, i.e. in rms, not because they are normalized to a low value. )
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exactly, so the peaks are lower relative to the rms. If you haven't done limiting for loudness, they could be amplifying the whole thing so that the peaks clip. It might actually be clipping in DAC, so you wouldn't see any distortions in a bounced waveform. Do you notice a loudness difference between the players that clip and those that don't?paul wrote: (Also, most "loud mixed" songs are loud because of compression, i.e. in rms, not because they are normalized to a low value. )
I'm theorizing here though. Just trying to help.
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Re: Exported audio has random clicks on some players
Perhaps http://wetransfer.com?paul wrote:Where can I upload it?artek wrote:Can you post example?