The quickest, simplest sampler?

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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby Scary Hallo » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:11 am

tripomatic wrote:You should use Petri-foo :).
Specimen is not maintained anymore.


Ohh, sorry, didn't know that. I used it a year ago in ubuntu10.04.
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby studio32 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:36 am

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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby danboid » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:14 pm

As Rui has already said, the answer here is clearly samplv1.

The prob with petri-foo and specimen is they are standalone JACK apps so you need to then wade into the murky depths of JACK session managers which is at least one more app to mess with and many more ways for your project to die in a messy, unrecoverable heap if we're being rather pessimistic about it all ;)

If you don't need the bells and whistles of Linuxsampler- samplv1 is the only serious choice IMO as every other sampler for Linux is a proof of concept or WIP.
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby studio32 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:24 pm

@Danboid, the nice thing about nsm is that the api let's you save all the data in one folder, this makes the session easy to archive. I'm not saying that session management is ideal, but so isn't a DAW like qtractor, also when it comes to session storage.

Anyway, it's nice that you like samplv1, but don't tell us that's the only option, that's BS to say it frankly. I can tell, cause I enjoy the working of drmr in jalv.gtk.
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby danboid » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:29 am

studio32:

This is what the OP requested:

"I want to load up a .wav file and set it to transpose across a MIDI channel. Just that, nothing else. QSampler and JSampler are enormously overengineered and crashy. I don't want Gigedit, I don't want channel and orchestra metaphors, I don't want any hurdles, I don't want constant crashes. Does something like that exist?"

I agree with his stance on q and jsampler and as a result LS for his purposes. You are suggesting he try Drmr which uses hydrogen kits hence does not let you simply load a wav as he requested. samplv1 can do this.

Also, the Hydrogen foundations of drmr bring with it a number of limitations not present within samplv1 (like the number of samples you can use and which keys trigger them) hence samplv1 is both more powerful and more easy to use for the OPs purposes at least.

I've only tried samplv1 with qtractor so far but it should work just as well with A3, jalv, falkTXs plugin host etc.
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby studio32 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:39 am

@danboid, you probably did read better then I did. But at any time, you've to be careful to say there is just one option for a task in the linuxaudio world ... but you added IMO, and it seems reasonable to have such an opinion. I guess it was hard for me to read that Jack session management is a mess after having enjoyed a evening toying with the non-things... all though the sentiment that something in the linuxaudio world sucks, is not uncommon here ;)
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby danboid » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:50 am

studio32:

On JSM solutions, no matter how well they may work:

I have absolutely no idea who the OP is or what their Linux and computing experience is however it is always safer to presume they have little Linux experience and/or have more experience with Windows or OSX. I know from experience that Windows and OSX types are took aback just by having to use JACK at all for a start.

"Why have I GOT to use JACK to use these apps?"

Is a standard question. THEN telling them they need to have an extra app to chain apps together!?! Rather you than me. Most people who come from the Windows audio world will run a mile when you tell them they have to now go and install, configure, learn and use and extra app just to have their sampler load at the same time as their sequencer or whatever.

If Linux audio wants to escape its niche, a regular user should never need to use a JSM although I do appreciate it is a nice feature/option to have for 'legacy' Linux audio apps that don't work as an LV2.
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Re: The quickest, simplest sampler?

Postby studio32 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:11 am

If you want to do it the Windows way, choose Windows as OS for audio. All though working with a main DAW and plugins is nice (certainly for Windows newbies), a strong point of Linuxaudio is it's modularity. It didn't work for a long time, but if you use nsm with non-daw and non-mixer, you realize that at least is can work and it can work now. It's fine that newbies will find their way on linuxaudio, I do care for that, but we shouldn't care too much for them. At least not in the way so that we find ourselves saying that Jack session management is a mess and throwing away our strengths in favor for the newbies Windows workflow.

I'm happy to try out Carla in nsm (yes LV2 is not only a blessing for DAWs, it can be used as standalone in Jalv and Carla!) and I hope I will proof myself right, that a modular workflow on Linux is possible, in a user friendly way. In theory non-daw + non-mix + jalv or carla in nsm should be more easy to use then a full featured DAW like Ardour ...
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